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RIP: AMARG Tours

Nighthawk237
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RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by Nighthawk237 » Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:23 pm

Sad new from Arizona it appears:

https://pimaair.org/plan-your-visit/available-tours/

Make of it what you will but I would guess once it has gone it won't return. I am just surprised that they put it down to Man-Power but what do I know?

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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by Freeman Lowell » Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:30 pm

Nighthawk237 wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:23 pm
I am just surprised that they put it down to Man-Power but what do I know?
Back in November Pima were citing the reason as 'changes in the policies of the USAF Security Forces'

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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by Proteus » Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:08 am

I amin Tucson at the moment and got a 2 week pass today, as we were driving on DM I/we were sure we saw a large part of a B36 wing. Does anyone here know if it is part of a Peacemaker wing please?

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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by iainpeden » Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:36 am

If you could give us an idea where it s in the boneyard a google earth search may be fruitful.

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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by IanM » Thu Oct 13, 2022 8:21 am

What you might have seen was the wing of a XC-99, the transport aircraft developed from the B-36. It used to be in external store at Kelly AFB until it was dismantled. I believe parts of the aircraft are stored at DM.

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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by Proteus » Thu Oct 13, 2022 9:53 am

Thanks for the answers, I have a picture but not sure of how to upload it, it is right beside a road that bisects the base,the xc99 seems likely.

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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by Proteus » Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:08 am

Ok hopefully if I’ve done flicker correctly the 4 pictures are here…… https://www.flickr.com/photos/196683370@N05/?

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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by iainpeden » Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:28 pm

If you google for images of the XC-99 they show that fuselage and those wings so you were nearly right.
Off to google earth for a look now.

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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by Proteus » Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:21 am

thanks for the answers chaps.

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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by Aircmdr » Sun May 21, 2023 8:50 pm

Is there any news on these tours reopening? Group of us going out in September, we were gutted to hear they had stopped them.

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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by iainpeden » Mon May 22, 2023 4:04 pm

The USN museum at Pensacola has just reopened, or will soon, to the general public; it had been shut because of covid then only reopened to service personnel and families and friends. So a change of general restrictions might be underway.
I would get in touch with the museum at Pima to ask your question and also contact public relations at D-M to ask if tours can be arranged- you never know until you ask.

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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by Precinct7 » Mon May 22, 2023 4:47 pm

Pensacola museum closed to "" Aliens " after a foreign student shot & killed personal on base
that was in December 2019 before Covid

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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by EAGLE » Tue May 23, 2023 2:05 pm

iainpeden wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 4:04 pm
The USN museum at Pensacola has just reopened, or will soon, to the general public; it had been shut because of covid then only reopened to service personnel and families and friends. So a change of general restrictions might be underway.
I would get in touch with the museum at Pima to ask your question and also contact public relations at D-M to ask if tours can be arranged- you never know until you ask.
It was closed to the public since the 2019 Terrorist Attack on base.
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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by Aircmdr » Tue May 23, 2023 3:29 pm

I will get the group leader to fire an email off to both Pima and D-M Public Relations, worth a try :)

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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by KevinJ » Tue May 23, 2023 7:40 pm

Would be nice if you could post any response to your request on here as well, to give other potential visitors some idea of their current attitude.

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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by Aircmdr » Thu May 25, 2023 8:35 pm

Yeah will do, unfortunately alot of the places we have contacted have rejected base tours due to new security policies, we have had a couple of hopeful replies but we not keeping hopes up, If we hear anything I will let you know :)

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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by cargomaster133uk » Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:52 pm

Any update ?

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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by plmc135 » Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:54 am

cargomaster133uk wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:52 pm
Any update ?
A quick look at Pima website would reveal the following statement:-

NOTICE: the bus tours to Davis-Monthan AFB of the 309th AMARG (AKA “The Boneyard”) have permanently ended. This tour is no longer offered and will not be coming back due to changes in U.S. Air Force security considerations

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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by cargomaster133uk » Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:40 am

Thanks

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Re: RIP: AMARG Tours

Post by SuperPole » Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:42 pm

With regards to the tours, I was out in the area not that long ago and visited Pima. I spoke with some of the volunteers at the museum and another reason that the tours have come to an end is that there were not enough volunteers left willing to take groups around, as in the past most of the people taking the groups around had been ex AMARG staff who had retired, as they still had the necessary security clearance and also had a good knowledge of the site when taking groups around.
It looks like it will be back to walking around the fence areas and overflights again. I'm just glad I managed a number of tours in the 1980s and 1990s, when they actually used to let you off the bus and go up and down the lines.
It also seems, having seen posts on various forums, the 'official' lists that appear from AMARG now have less information on them than before [not sure whether that is some sort of official policy by the military to strip out info or whether it is down to the person compiling the info not being interested]

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