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Flyovers - Davis Monthan & Marana Storage

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Flyovers - Davis Monthan & Marana Storage

Post by 67ARRS » Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:34 pm

Now that Biden has opened the US I have booked a trip to Arizona for the end of April 2022. Planning on basing in Phoenix but want to do AMARC & Marana. Any suggestion re plane hire companies at either Tucson or Avra Valley.

MTIA

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Re: Flyovers - Davis Monthan & Marana Storage

Post by Alf » Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:23 am

Double Eagle are good for doing this. They were at Tucson Airport but now relocated to nearby Ryan Field.

http://www.doubleeagleaviation.com/

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Re: Flyovers - Davis Monthan & Marana Storage

Post by tommc » Fri Mar 18, 2022 5:13 am

A Marana overflight last week enabled 40-odd Silverbell helos to be identified too. Note that the FYs were NOT read off, just added for your convenience.

92052 AH-64D plus 2 more
17-20981 UH-60M
07-20094 UH-60M
07-20051 UH-60M
85-24387 UH-60A
20-21110 UH-60M
20-21139 UH-60M
08-20100 UH-60M
87-24632 UH-60A
20-21113 UH-60M
83-23900 UH-60A
20-21141 UH-60M
07-20055 UH-60M
88-26040 UH-60L
20-21117 UH-60M
85-24407 UH-60A
77-22720 UH-60A
81-23591 UH-60A
81-23559 UH-60A
85-24423 UH-60A
87-24647 UH-60A
87-24609 UH-60A
94-26578 UH-60L
91-26333 UH-60L
08-72050 UH-72A
07-72035 UH-72A
07-72033 UH-72A
87-24633 UH-60A
90-26313 UH-60L
86-24517 UH-60A
84-23980 UH-60A
96-26701 UH-60L
83-23886 UH-60A
84-23973 UH-60A
07-72032 UH-72A
09-72121 UH-72A
19-72455 UH-72A
19-72450??? UH-72A
66-15255 AH-1F
67-15471 AH-1S
70-15143 OH-58A

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Re: Flyovers - Davis Monthan & Marana Storage

Post by Andy Marden » Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:25 am

Tom,
Thanks, nice list. I take it you added in the first two digits of some of the serials to the white last threes, as some of them are wrong:

094 will be 19-21094
051 will be 19-21051
100 will be 19-21100
055 will be 19-21055

96-26701 is a Reserve machine based at Fort Knox. I think this one is 82-23701. It's caused problems before.
Can you reconfirm 85-24407 and 84-23980 please? They are probably right, both would be ex Rucker, like a lot of WAATS machines. Did they have a white last three and/or an Arizona flag?

19-72455 is a Barstow-based machine - visitor, it arrived on 9Mar22 I think. Does it wear the standard (ie non "Aggressor") scheme?
19-72450 is a Fort Polk-based machine, so would be a long way from home. I think it is much more likely to have been Barstow-based 72460, which was also at Pinal in March.

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Post by tommc » Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:43 pm

Thanks Andy, some photos sent to you.

I was just posting quickly really to let the OP know what sort of things could be obtained from a flyover.

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Post by Andy Marden » Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:06 pm

One other thing worth mentioning is that a weekend overflight will produce slightly less, as the Lakotas are usually hangared then. Still c 30 UH-60s left outside though.

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Re: Flyovers - Davis Monthan & Marana Storage

Post by Fives » Sun May 01, 2022 12:35 pm

Recent posting on MSF and Touchdown (May 2022) suggests DM overflights are regularly being denied.

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Re: Flyovers - Davis Monthan & Marana Storage

Post by 67ARRS » Fri May 13, 2022 5:02 am

Fives wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 12:35 pm
Recent posting on MSF and Touchdown (May 2022) suggests DM overflights are regularly being denied.
The flights over the Boneyard are now restricted to be above 5,600 feet or even higher or they can also be denied. Not good if taking photos :@

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Re: Flyovers - Davis Monthan & Marana Storage

Post by Fives » Fri May 13, 2022 4:00 pm

I seem to remember flying around 5,000ft back in 2015 and that was ok...depends on the sun too of course.

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Re: Flyovers - Davis Monthan & Marana Storage

Post by Undertaker » Fri May 13, 2022 4:20 pm

Not as good as 1500ft back in October 1993 !!

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Re: Flyovers - Davis Monthan & Marana Storage

Post by Fives » Fri May 13, 2022 5:29 pm

Quite, also not as good as actually being allowed to walk the lines inside the base, like we used to:)

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Re: Flyovers - Davis Monthan & Marana Storage

Post by adderman » Fri May 13, 2022 9:06 pm

Fives wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 5:29 pm
Quite, also not as good as actually being allowed to walk the lines inside the base, like we used to:)
Was that on the 4 hour tour from Pima or before then?
Did this in 1989 and they used to drop you off by the F4 ramp and allow you to walk up and down.

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Re: Flyovers - Davis Monthan & Marana Storage

Post by Fives » Sat May 14, 2022 6:06 am

I can't remember as it was the early eighties, what I can remember is the coach driver opening the doors and saying....'ok you guys do your thing'.

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Re: Flyovers - Davis Monthan & Marana Storage

Post by plmc135 » Sat May 14, 2022 8:17 am

In the 70's they did a tour on the first Saturday of the month which let you loose for a complete day. Did it in October 1976 and we managed to log 4,549 :thumbs:

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Re: Flyovers - Davis Monthan & Marana Storage

Post by Fives » Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:48 pm

We were told last Saturday 12th Nov 2022 by Arizona Aero-tech, that the US Government now requires at least seven days notice with passport details.

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Re: Flyovers - Davis Monthan & Marana Storage

Post by Fives » Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:05 am

Actually, it is more like two weeks...Aero-tech need a copy of your passport page 'a couple of weeks' ahead of the planned trip.

Even then it is still not guaranteed that DM Air Traffic will allow an overflight.

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Re: Flyovers - Davis Monthan & Marana Storage

Post by XX105 » Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:39 pm

We did the flight over DM yesterday, having had our Pilot stuck in stationary traffic ,we only got airborne at 9am and were refused over flight of the boneyard after a TUS flyby with one ATC Controller,so had intended to continue to Pinal and try again on the way back,but or Pilot thought there was a discrepancy in the first controller voice (that she didn’t recognise) so continued on the original booking out.
On changing frequency the DM controller that was okay not below 5,600ft.(this controller she recognised as she said it “ of having enough seniority to make the decision,and was the one she recognised as the most accommodating “

We were refused at Pinal initially (due parachuting until she advised them of there block acceptance at Double Eagle.
Very good pilot and the most regular for “bone yard” flights.

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