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104's @ Valley 1987

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 9:41 am
by roughcutter
I was fortunate enough to be at the RAF Valley Open Day in August 1987, and also watched the arrivals the day before. It was a decent line up of visitors and also coincided with the 74 Sqn STAACME deployment for the following week. Unfortunately the flying display itself was disrupted by a very low lying sea mist that crept in at the beginning of the show and lingered there for most of the day. Although visibility was clear underneath it, the cloud base was less than 100 feet, so we had the weird spectacle of seeing aircraft taking off and literally vanishing in plain sight. Very frustrating, you could hear the activity going on over head. :( Anyway the stars of the show for me were the two WGAF F-104G's that turned up for the static park. While one of the Starfighters was fully tanked up, the other one was clean, which led to a lot of speculation of it being in the flying programme, but alas, wasn't to be. Apart from the Pair of Italian F-104S ASA's in 2002, these were probably the last ever visit of a 104G to Valley.

Image_61G6308 by Mark Lewis, on Flickr

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Re: 104's @ Valley 1987

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:15 pm
by PhilE
Lovely comparison of the 2 aircraft, I wondered what was the range of the clean version?. Phil

Re: 104's @ Valley 1987

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:47 pm
by Mustang531
Thanks for sharing these with us, nice to see F-104s. It's a shame that they don't hold shows at Valley anymore, loved visiting the base.

Re: 104's @ Valley 1987

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 3:33 am
by paddyboy
Excellent set there, Mark :thumbs:

You gotta luv a Hooter ;)

Paddyboy :clap:

Re: 104's @ Valley 1987

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:07 pm
by Keflavik69
Very nice to see all these shots of a couple of Memmingen Starfighters. The only time I went to a Valley Open Day was in 1991 which was mainly an RAF event with foreign F-16's instead of F-104's.
Thanks a lot for posting your pictures.

Re: 104's @ Valley 1987

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:50 pm
by STARIL
Lovely reminder of a much missed classic. The fully tanked 104 is now preserved at Tessenderlo in Belgium. Saw it last week.

Re: 104's @ Valley 1987

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:40 am
by roughcutter
Cheers guys, you can never have 'too many' 104's :thumb:
Although this was the last occasion of them turning up at Valley, it wasn't entirely the last I saw of the 104G.
The following year at the Lakeheath Open House, I was absolutely delighted to see 23+01 turn up out of the blue, resplendent in the markings of WTD-61 (Manching). Completely unexpected and (despite the B-1B debut) definitely the show stealer. :clap:
The last time I saw 23+01 it was in 2006 at Gatow Cold War museum.

Re: 104's @ Valley 1987

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:31 pm
by andrewn
roughcutter wrote:
Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:40 am
Cheers guys, you can never have 'too many' 104's :thumb:
Although this was the last occasion of them turning up at Valley, it wasn't entirely the last I saw of the 104G.
The following year at the Lakeheath Open House, I was absolutely delighted to see 23+01 turn up out of the blue, resplendent in the markings of WTD-61 (Manching). Completely unexpected and (despite the B-1B debut) definitely the show stealer. :clap:
The last time I saw 23+01 it was in 2006 at Gatow Cold War museum.
And then even more surprisingly that same one turned up at the Leicester Airshow the same day :)

Re: 104's @ Valley 1987

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:02 pm
by roughcutter
andrewn wrote:
Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:31 pm
roughcutter wrote:
Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:40 am
Cheers guys, you can never have 'too many' 104's :thumb:
Although this was the last occasion of them turning up at Valley, it wasn't entirely the last I saw of the 104G.
The following year at the Lakeheath Open House, I was absolutely delighted to see 23+01 turn up out of the blue, resplendent in the markings of WTD-61 (Manching). Completely unexpected and (despite the B-1B debut) definitely the show stealer. :clap:
The last time I saw 23+01 it was in 2006 at Gatow Cold War museum.
And then even more surprisingly that same one turned up at the Leicester Airshow the same day :)
He certainly did the rounds that day, in fact there was also a Starfighter on the flying display at Cottesmore Families Day in the July.

Re: 104's @ Valley 1987

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:15 pm
by Ridge Runner
Luvverly

Re: 104's @ Valley 1987

Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 11:38 am
by Petepilot
Ah, the F-104 - the best of the best of the best....IMHO :thumb:

Thanks for sharing (more please!).

Re: 104's @ Valley 1987

Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 3:15 pm
by Stratocruiser
Brilliant captures of a brilliant type with other wonderful background types of yesteryear!
Thanks for sharing your superb captures 👍