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Draken to provide Red Air training to RAF from Teesside

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Re: Draken to provide Red Air training to RAF from Teesside

Post by BARON243.9 » Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:27 am

Davef68 wrote:
Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:12 am
raptor9 wrote:
Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:20 pm
I believe the CAA will not allow the Mirage, because it uses an afterburner. Not allowed in civilian hands.
Not as simple as that, it depends on the level of complexity and what level of OEM/Design authority support is provided.
Use of reheat within a turbine engine does not necessarily render the aircraft Complex, as the system may consist of little more than a HighPressure pump and in cases of civil approval maximum weights achievable will be such that take-off performance would not be compromised significantly by failure of the system. For example, the MiG-17F has reheat and was accepted as intermediate. However, the required use of throttleable reheat or the requirement for reheat on the remaining engine in the event of an engine failure would render the aircraft in the Complex
category.
Aircraft with reheat or afterburner systems will be considered for flight under the CAA Permit to Fly system. The only intermediate category aircraft thus far accepted for approval with such a system fitted is the Lim-7/MiG-17 as the reheat fitted is of basic design and also not required for normal operations. Most aircraft with reheat will fall into the complex category and therefore the reheat system becomes one part of the whole aircraft that has to meet the applicable requirements under this more exacting category. A good example of this is the
SEPECAT Jaguar where the required use of throttleable reheat or the requirement for reheat on the remaining engine in the event of an engine failure renders the aircraft in the Complex category.
https://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CA ... 202021.pdf

Different rules if the type has a civilian certificate of airworthiness, or indeed is operated on the military register under MAA authority (Hence why HHA were able to operate their Hunters when all the civillian ones were grounded post-Shoreham)

be curious to see if the L-159s operate on non-UK registrations, Permits or on mil serials under the MAA.
All indications from the multiple job adverts along with the press release from the RAF strongly suggests UK CAA under CAP 632 and CAP 553.

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