RAF Aircraft Currently Stateside

[jetranger2015]

Hi Everyone,
Does anyone have a list of current airframes stateside(for whatever reason)?
I know there are several F35's in maintenance as well as undelivered and on squadron plus an RJ.

MTIA.

[Ghastly Whisper]

No offence is intended in this reply, but I dont think answering that question publicly on an open forum is advisable.

[Vulcanone]

No offence is intended in this reply, but I dont think answering that question publicly on an open forum is advisable.

Seconded

[NorvilleRogers]

No offence is intended in this reply, but I dont think answering that question publicly on an open forum is advisable.

Seconded

So why does FC report on an almost daily basis the status of every airframe at Lakenheath - based, deployed or stateside on maintenance if this is not OK for RAF?

[Alf]

No offence is intended in this reply, but I dont think answering that question publicly on an open forum is advisable.

Seconded

So why does FC report on an almost daily basis the status of every airframe at Lakenheath - based, deployed or stateside on maintenance if this is not OK for RAF?

Seconded.

[STN RAMP RAT]

Personally, I don’t have an issue with this thread. If the information is publically sourced then it’s in the public domain. Information on the launch times and direction of the BTF missions is published in great detail on the board as well as the status of the LN based aircraft, arguably that’s more sensitive.

If the question was how many aircraft are forward deployed, and where. Then that would be a different scenario.

[Ghastly Whisper]

Well my own thinking was the original poster has a FC account that was dormant for 5 years before being used and has only 57 posts in 10 years, so not necessarily anything to do with what FC do and dont post. Plainly nobody is going to suply the information. Which is not that hard to find, its all in this forum!

[paddyboy]

Well said, GW

[jetranger2015]

Well my own thinking was the original poster has a FC account that was dormant for 5 years before being used and has only 57 posts in 10 years, so not necessarily anything to do with what FC do and dont post. Plainly nobody is going to suply the information. Which is not that hard to find, its all in this forum!

Always a reply that is getting personal and demeaning when a question is asked.
perhaps that is why i don't post questions or comment's along with a lot of other members.
we don't all have time to be on here all day everyday like a few people.
i asked a question, a moderator has said its not sensitive, if you know, please answer,(as i am sure a lot of others would like the general information), if you don't know please keep quiet!
as said before, we publish serial numbers etc for everything else that is not deployed, even track them and give the serials when they go (cyprus recently and red flag).

Friendly forum it ain't.

[POL]

No offence is intended in this reply, but I dont think answering that question publicly on an open forum is advisable.

Yawnnnnnnnnnnn. Mods - seriously - can you act on people who are here simply to troll and try and stop people contributing?

Meanwhile, I’ll go collate the answer from plenty of open source information.

[jetranger2015]

Thankyou POL

[RubyRoo]

Hi Everyone,
Does anyone have a list of current airframes stateside(for whatever reason)?
I know there are several F35's in maintenance as well as undelivered and on squadron plus an RJ.

MTIA.

Hi jetranger

I don't have any information for anything other than the RAF F-35Bs, however the frames currently in the states are:

ZM135, ZM136, ZM138, ZM165, ZM170 and ZM171.

There's rumours that early airframes will be "de-wired" and sent over to RAF Marham to join the main fleet whilst 17sqn will receive newer TR-3 airframes. (ZM170+)

Hope that helps.

[Vulcanone]

Norville and Alf.

I posted my seconded comment as there is stuff like helicopters that go stateside which nobody ever gets, thus its not an easy question to answer.....

[jetranger2015]

thankyou RubyRoo for your reply,
very helpful and it is the fixed wing aircraft I was thinking about, not rotary.
ZZ664 is still out there as well i believe on 'upgrade' for the last 18 months, not sure of anything else.

[jetranger2015]

Norville and Alf.

I posted my seconded comment as there is stuff like helicopters that go stateside which nobody ever gets, thus its not an easy question to answer.....

what can i say

[Ghastly Whisper]

Well my own thinking was the original poster has a FC account that was dormant for 5 years before being used and has only 57 posts in 10 years, so not necessarily anything to do with what FC do and dont post. Plainly nobody is going to suply the information. Which is not that hard to find, its all in this forum!

Always a reply that is getting personal and demeaning when a question is asked.
perhaps that is why i don't post questions or comment's along with a lot of other members.
we don't all have time to be on here all day everyday like a few people.
i asked a question, a moderator has said its not sensitive, if you know, please answer,(as i am sure a lot of others would like the general information), if you don't know please keep quiet!
as said before, we publish serial numbers etc for everything else that is not deployed, even track them and give the serials when they go (cyprus recently and red flag).

Friendly forum it ain't.

Whatever just my opinion and what i was thinking at the time.

Yawnnnnnnnnnnn. Mods - seriously - can you act on people who are here simply to troll and try and stop people contributing?

Meanwhile, I’ll go collate the answer from plenty of open source information.

sometimes we are all trolls in different ways at different times

[sschofield]

Hi Everyone,
Does anyone have a list of current airframes stateside(for whatever reason)?
I know there are several F35's in maintenance as well as undelivered and on squadron plus an RJ.

MTIA.

Hi jetranger

I don't have any information for anything other than the RAF F-35Bs, however the frames currently in the states are:

ZM135, ZM136, ZM138, ZM165, ZM170 and ZM171.

There's rumours that early airframes will be "de-wired" and sent over to RAF Marham to join the main fleet whilst 17sqn will receive newer TR-3 airframes. (ZM170+)

Hope that helps.

More specifically, 17 squadron has ZM135, 138 and 165 at Edwards, CA, and ZM170 at Patuxent River, MD. ZM136 is/was at Ogden ALC (Hill AFB), UT for mods. ZM171 is with LMTAS at Fort Worth, not yet handed over.
Aditionally, ZM144 and 145 are with FRCE at Cherry Point, NC for rework.

And yes, as already stated, Rivet Joint ZZ664 is still at Greenville, TX for mods.

[RubyRoo]

More specifically, 17 squadron has ZM135, 138 and 165 at Edwards, CA, and ZM170 at Patuxent River, MD. ZM136 is/was at Ogden ALC (Hill AFB), UT for mods. ZM171 is with LMTAS at Fort Worth, not yet handed over.
Aditionally, ZM144 and 145 are with FRCE at Cherry Point, NC for rework.

And yes, as already stated, Rivet Joint ZZ664 is still at Greenville, TX for mods.

That's great information, thank you.

Do you know what the reason is for a delay with ZM172 onwards? It's been around a year since the last British ones came off the production line, which even for British F-35 delivery standards is very slow.

Was it due to the Tech-Refresh 3 build?

[2e1var]

ZK438 was repaired and left Nellis today.

[sschofield]

More specifically, 17 squadron has ZM135, 138 and 165 at Edwards, CA, and ZM170 at Patuxent River, MD. ZM136 is/was at Ogden ALC (Hill AFB), UT for mods. ZM171 is with LMTAS at Fort Worth, not yet handed over.
Aditionally, ZM144 and 145 are with FRCE at Cherry Point, NC for rework.

And yes, as already stated, Rivet Joint ZZ664 is still at Greenville, TX for mods.

That's great information, thank you.

Do you know what the reason is for a delay with ZM172 onwards? It's been around a year since the last British ones came off the production line, which even for British F-35 delivery standards is very slow.

Was it due to the Tech-Refresh 3 build?

I don't know definitively, but I think the TR-3 issues they had knocked onto the whole production process. There were close to 100 airframes built and then being stored pending delivery. One must assume there are ome RAF/RN examples amongst them!