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A resident is complaining about the noise at Valley.
Full story here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-nort ... s-29625686

One remedy would be - MOVE

See also viewtopic.php?f=32&t=105327

rh226 wrote:See also viewtopic.php?f=32&t=105327

sorry didn't see it on there

Reminds me when I was growing up in Farnborough. Somebody bought a House on the Farnborough Road opposite RAE South gate/ end of main Runway & complained about the planes coming over their House especially during the Air Show. They must of come from another plant not to know about the famous Farnborough Air Show!!

If he suffers with angina and tinitus, then dont live next to an airfield!!!! i mean he is fair enough to complain if he has lived there for years when T1 is based there, but if he has just moved there within the last 2-3 years, why would you? if you have hearing problems!!

These days I'd be worried there isn't enough noise at Valley!!

Time for a tiffy deployment to Valley I think..... then he'll feel some jet noise!!

Not much sympathy for the resident I'm afraid, the RAF needs to have quality aircrew & that's what the personnel at Valley help to provide. Long may they continue!

Perhaps they should stop building houses next to airfields. Simples.

Cheers

Shane

Michaelmas wrote:I, like this chap have tinnitus and, living next door to Culdrose enjoy it when the Hawks take off because it drowns it out! Reading the BBC article, all I can see staring out is the word, compensation, compensation, compensation.
Was brought up in a village close to Gatwick and one family in particular always went on about jet noise. O k they lived there before LGW was opened in 1958 but they had people in Scotland that they visited fairly regularly, and always flew on the late night BCAL 1-11 to GLA explaining that LGW was so much easier to use than LHR. Cake and eat it syndrome, methinks in their case.
Them that move close to airfields/airports, motorways/busy roads and railway lines should put up, and shut up.

Agree on this front another person out to screw some compensation.

Valley has been there for years & I'm sure in the past have had far louder jets deployed there. We need to train Pilots to fly in all weathers & all times of the day not be restricted by noise abatement rules. Maybe if a newish resident he should take his case up with the solicitors who did the property searches as they forgot to mention the active airbase.

There have been exactly the same situations at RAF Lossiemouth and at the ranges by Tain. In all recent cases the complainants had only relatively recently moved into these areas so their complaints lacked objective credibility!

Hunter wrote:There have been exactly the same situations at RAF Lossiemouth and at the ranges by Tain. In all recent cases the complainants had only relatively recently moved into these areas so their complaints lacked objective credibility!

.......and no doubt the Estate Agent took them to view their new house during a weekend.................

Sylar wrote:Perhaps they should stop building houses next to airfields. Simples.

Cheers

Shane

Not simple really, an airfield will generally need supporting infratructure within a stone's throw - accomodation for personnel, shops for them to go to, schools for their kids to go to etc. and the town will also grow and develop because of the influx of new people, like Helston when Culdrose was built. Even then you have to consider that I can hear Hawks taking off from Culdrose from my house which is about 3 miles as the crow flies from the base, while also having the most often used runway pointing away from me, I could only imagine at a base with Tornados or Typhoons, with the right wind, could be heard from miles around. While a base in the middle of nowhere might lessen noise complaints, it's hardly practical.

Mike wrote:.......and no doubt the Estate Agent took them to view their new house during a weekend.................

In one case Mike it was better than that! At Tain a local councillor bought a house overlooking the Dornoch Firth. Maybe where he lived before was much quieter but once he'd moved he used his position to make a complaint. It was only after someone picked up on the fact that his son had recently joined the RAF that he shut up! Methinks this smacks of privileged hypocrisy!

Just a whinging Nimby methinks. I spent seven year's at Valley and my room faced the 19 threshold about 300 yards away. Yes the jets were a bit noisey on take off but you soon get used to it and can sleep through it. A mouse farting at 200 yards normally wakes me up!
The only time I thought "that was a bit loud" was when we had four Tornado F3's use 19 due to strong cross winds. Two pairs in full burner, I think every car alarm on camp went off.

"Our biggest concern is that the noise level created by the Hawk T2 jets is considerably louder than the original Hawk T1 planes," are they not the same powerplant?

No, the T2 is powered by the Adour 951.

I used to have to deal with some noise complaints at Woodford, now the same people are moaning about the 100s of houses to be built on the closed airfield.

"and while I'm at it".........."NOBODY told me about the noise from the Sea......especially in the Winter !!!!"......."all that crashing about for hours on end"......."and as for the SEAGULLS !!!!"


My Guess.......either it's clamoring for compensation......or he's selling up

Seems to me that his whining is louder than an Adour 951! Cut to the chase boyo, what do you want? It's either new double-glazing or compensation on a blighted re-sale + pain & suffering. (although IMHO the latter component should be paid to RAF Valley )

We use to have a bloke drink in our pub that moved down to retire in cornwall. He paid good money for his house right at the end of runway 30 (next the viewing enclosure for anyone that knows it) at Culdrose. .
He would come in most nights moaning about the racket the aircraft would make and had written letters of complaint to the council and the navy about it!
So I asked him one day if he disliked it so much why did he buy the house there in the first place? ?
His response was priceless! !
He said he seen it advertised on line, and came to view it at the weekend. After noting the rather large runway right outside his front door he thought he best do a search (online! ) to see what it was.. so did a search for RAF airfileds West cornwall. . Of course it came up with RAF Preddannck, a disused WW2 airfiled. So he thought he could live with a disused runway as part of his rather nice view! !
when I asked "didn't you see all the hangars and control tower etc.and a larger sign not to fare away saying "Culdrose the largest helicopter base in Europe! " No he said , I only ever came to view it at night!!!! .
stupid plank! !

buzzer wrote:We use to have a bloke drink in our pub that moved down to retire in cornwall. He paid good money for his house right at the end of runway 30 (next the viewing enclosure for anyone that knows it) at Culdrose. .
He would come in most nights moaning about the racket the aircraft would make and had written letters of complaint to the council and the navy about it!
So I asked him one day if he disliked it so much why did he buy the house there in the first place? ?
His response was priceless! !
He said he seen it advertised on line, and came to view it at the weekend. After noting the rather large runway right outside his front door he thought he best do a search (online! ) to see what it was.. so did a search for RAF airfileds West cornwall. . Of course it came up with RAF Preddannck, a disused WW2 airfiled. So he thought he could live with a disused runway as part of his rather nice view! !
when I asked "didn't you see all the hangars and control tower etc.and a larger sign not to fare away saying "Culdrose the largest helicopter base in Europe! " No he said , I only ever came to view it at night!!!! .
stupid plank! !

I did hear of a retired RAF Officer who bought a house near the viewing enclosure at CU, only to complain about the aircraft noise! Beggars belief really... although perhaps they are just 'chancers', hoping for a payout?

How anyone could miss the fact there is an active airfield right next to them - even if they only visited the house at night - is beyond belief. They are either completely ignorant/stupid or just liars - probably the latter.