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Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:34 pm
by Gary
Tucano display team have just twitted there will be on display this year, but IV(R) will perform a role demo in the Hawk T2
Tucano Display @RAFTucanoTeam · 18m 18 minutes ago
The Tucano Display Team will not operate in 2015. Instead the Hawk T2 will provide a role demonstration to showcase fast-jet flying training
https://twitter.com/RAFTucanoTeam
Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:21 pm
by Stug
That's a shame, I rather like the Tucano displays. Probably the only one here that does! However, the T2 display could be good.
Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:21 pm
by paddyboy
You are certainly
not the only one, Stug, as the Tucano display has always, IMHO, been slick, sharp, and a great watch
Looking forward to the T2 display just as much, as it should showcase something a bit different
Cheers
Paddyboy

Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:10 pm
by somerset
Likely to be a display scheme ?
Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:27 pm
by lowlevelRAF
Will be good to see Hawk T2 out and about on display circuit

Shame the Tucano is not displaying, as they do a great job! Will be interesting to see if they do a scheme

If not, atleast we still have RAF assets in the show

Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:58 pm
by Davef68
T2 Role demo - takes off, disappears over the horizon, returns hour and a half later and lands.
Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:46 pm
by toom317
Stug wrote:That's a shame, I rather like the Tucano displays. Probably the only one here that does! However, the T2 display could be good.
Nope, another Tucano fan here Stug. Sorry to see it go, but at least the T2 is a lot more photogenic than the T1.
Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:15 am
by The Phantom
But why does it have to replace it? Why not have both? Presumably penny pinching again!

Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:10 pm
by balamorybuzzed
Davef68 wrote:T2 Role demo - takes off, disappears over the horizon, returns hour and a half later and lands.
You forgot the taxiies back bit with the canopy open!!

Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:41 pm
by f-4
Tucano is old hat now with MFTS approaching. Hawk T2 is the shiny new face the RAF wants to portray to the public, even if only foreign students get to fly it while RAF students soldier on with the T1...
Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:37 pm
by Agent K
f-4 wrote:Tucano is old hat now with MFTS approaching. Hawk T2 is the shiny new face the RAF wants to portray to the public, even if only foreign students get to fly it while RAF students soldier on with the T1...
Incorrect, totally, where did you get this "fact" from?

Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:19 pm
by venom
Time for chang e looking forward to it
Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:36 pm
by POL
Agent K wrote:f-4 wrote:Tucano is old hat now with MFTS approaching. Hawk T2 is the shiny new face the RAF wants to portray to the public, even if only foreign students get to fly it while RAF students soldier on with the T1...
Incorrect, totally, where did you get this "fact" from?

I'd imagine it was an opinion, as opposed to fact

Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:09 pm
by Gary
According to the RAF Valley Facebook page, the Hawk T2 role demo is a pair
Flt Lt's Ben Polwin and Toby Keeley from IV(R) Sqn, RAF Valley, planning their display for the new Hawk T2 Role Demo for the 2015 airshow season. The two-ship display will showcase the capabilities of the BAE Hawk T2, one of the worlds most advanced fast-jet trainers. Ben and Toby are both highly experienced fast jet pilots, and are QFI's (Qualified Flying Instructors) with IV(R) Sqn. Watch this space - we'll be following Ben and Toby throughout the season!
https://www.facebook.com/RAFValley
Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:45 pm
by Agent K
EGCC wrote:Agent K wrote:f-4 wrote:Tucano is old hat now with MFTS approaching. Hawk T2 is the shiny new face the RAF wants to portray to the public, even if only foreign students get to fly it while RAF students soldier on with the T1...
Incorrect, totally, where did you get this "fact" from?

I'd imagine it was an opinion, as opposed to fact

Clarification, I was referring to the comment about foreign students only flying the T2, wasn't commenting on the Tucano opinion part. Opinion is opinion.
However, interesting if it's going to be a 2-ship.
Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:49 am
by flyingslug_0
My understanding, although not official, is that the two IV Sqd Special tailed aircraft will be used. They will keep the tail design but lose the "100"
104 by
Craig Sluman 900K views! Thank you, on Flickr
Personally I can't wait .....

Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:46 pm
by Gary
According to the T2 role demo twitter feed, they will have make shift SAM fired during the demo
These will be fired at Ben & Toby in the role demo at airfield shows only. Who needs red/white/blue smoke #no1display
https://twitter.com/T2roledemo
Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:21 pm
by nickowen
We were briefed by the team last night, and were privileged to see a practice today. The role demo (we were warned not to expect a display of aerobatics) will include pyrotechnics and smoky SAMs after a 500kt / 100ft arrival.
Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 6:37 pm
by C24
Just for the record, I, too think that the Tucarno is a smart looking aircraft and must be great to fly. The demos have been great to watch, the scheme well worth capturing. Sad that it will not be around this season.
Two T2s showing off their capabilities is certainly worth a trip to witness. If it generates sales & extends the production run until we need more of them, sounds like a Plan.
An updated version might do as a Tornado replacement arising from the next defence review. Who knows, if we carry on as we are today, operating Typhoons against terrorists armed with AK 47s & riding Honda 90s will be too expensive.
Re: Hawk T2 role demo to replace Tucano display in 2015
Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 11:16 am
by C24
You obvious haven't seen the classified upgrade package for the T3 that includes removal of personnel equipment and incorporates UAV technology.
We are trying to punch above our weight, spending money that we do not have/generate. Can someone explain why we are sending aircraft to bomb/kill people in a country when such a policy did not work on the previous four periods that we were active there?
Back on topic, why will the two aircraft be showing off how effective they are at going "bang & whoosh" if they could not be used by us to bomb & whoosh. Not a very effective sales pitch in my opinion.
Politics aside, I look forward to the demo, it should make for some good "shots".
