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Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:52 pm
by glasfryn
Just noticed this..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-nort ... s-10782263" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:02 pm
by garethbrum
Tucano and GR.4 too I believe - until checks on the seats have been completed anyway.
Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:39 pm
by HighlandSniper
garethbrum wrote: GR.4 too I believe - until checks on the seats have been completed anyway.
Well, there have been a lot of GR4s flying from Lossie today until around an hour ago.
Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:41 pm
by RichC
Had some hawks up today callsign Aztec flying around too but it does state that aircraft will be able to fly once checked so obviously these have been checked to fly
Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:42 pm
by Gary
HighlandSniper wrote:garethbrum wrote: GR.4 too I believe - until checks on the seats have been completed anyway.
Well, there have been a lot of GR4s flying from Lossie today until around an hour ago.
There were a handful of Marham Tornado's about today
Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:43 pm
by garyscott
Going to muck up the Reds ability to display??
Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:07 pm
by garethbrum
Only passing on what I've been told - by a RAF pilot! lol
Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:20 pm
by MacksAviation
Gary wrote:HighlandSniper wrote:garethbrum wrote: GR.4 too I believe - until checks on the seats have been completed anyway.
Well, there have been a lot of GR4s flying from Lossie today until around an hour ago.
There were a handful of Marham Tornado's about today
And that story on the Beeb was first updated @1841 and then 2001 so maybe its like 'breaking news' and flying until recently was unaffected !
Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:20 pm
by Jez
garethbrum wrote:Only passing on what I've been told - by a RAF pilot! lol
I think you are right. MB Mk10s are fitted to all Tornados as far as I know (including non-RAF ones).
Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:40 pm
by Reptile 1
It only came to light later on this afternoon so its still pretty fresh news.
Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:36 pm
by Unknown74
That will be a few Techies having sleepless nights, having to stay up and check the seats, also with regards the GR.4s I've been watching some at Tain until about 7.30pm This Evening.
Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:44 pm
by headset 57
garyscott wrote:Going to muck up the Reds ability to display??
No it's not, they would be easy to check by their own team.
Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:39 pm
by garethbrum
headset 57 wrote:garyscott wrote:Going to muck up the Reds ability to display??
No it's not, they would be easy to check by their own team.
Depends if they need anything doing to them though...............
Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:30 am
by SATCO
Reds on their mid-season break so there will be plenty of time to sort out their aircraft, next display 6 August at Cowes.
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Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:28 am
by Flyingmonster
Great Job by the guy who has spotted the problem!
With regards to the checks will they require a full strip down on just a Xray? Will any foreign Operators be affected by this?
Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:47 pm
by RichC
A mate near Hereford just said "I just saw a hawk go over but it had wing pods".
So this must be one of the new Hawks, obviously been checked over as it states once checked, they can fly. One by one they will be filing out of Valley etc.
Have Rebel 87 over Chivenor too, Tornado out of Boscombe....and several Harriers up over Wales and East Anglia now too.
Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:04 pm
by HighlandSniper
Tonkas flying from Lossie today, one flying over as I type.
Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:39 pm
by Velvet Glove
Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:20 pm
by garethbrum
Inspection guidelines could be issued tomorrow apparently.........
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... fleet.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Hawks Grounded??????
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:52 pm
by Gary
4 August 2010 Last updated at 17:27
Flight ban on Red Arrows' Hawks is lifted
The Red Arrows have been cleared to fly again after a potential ejector seat fault grounded jets used by the team.
The Ministry of Defence suspended Hawk T Mk 1 flights across the country when the problem was detected at Anglesey's RAF Valley at the end of June.
Now individual Hawks deemed safe will be allowed to fly, says the MoD.
The aerobatic team, based at RAF Scampton in Lincolnshire, is expected to comment after it receives official confirmation of the decision.
Displays unaffected
The temporary flight suspension prompted uncertainty about upcoming displays by the Red Arrows, next due to appear at Cowes on the Isle of Wight on Friday.
No public events have been affected so far as the potential fault came to light during the team's mid-season break.
An MoD spokesman said: "A full engineering investigation has been undertaken into potential faults found on the Martin-Baker Mk10B ejection seats fitted to Hawk T Mk 1 aircraft.
"The temporary flying suspension is now lifted for aircraft that have undergone and passed a technical inspection.
"The Red Arrows display programme will be unaffected."
Info from
BBC News
A notam has been posted for there formation transit to Bournemouth tomorrow too.