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E7 Wedgetail order reduction

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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by rik1301 » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:18 am

To pre-empt the inevitable question "why does it have windows?" - unlike the P-8s, the E-7s were not ordered in large enough numbers to get their own windowless barrel, so they were made based on the "YG" barrel spec which is the same one used for the BBJs and 737-700 Combis and then had the windows plugged later.

Here is one of the old Australian E-7s for reference : https://www.airliners.net/photo/Austral ... ES/1166079

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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by Davef68 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:53 am

Latest sighting of the two being converted in Birmingham. has anyone seen any report of allocated RAF serials? They are usually allocated early in the program

https://twitter.com/AndrewTurnerRAF/sta ... 8574297088?

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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by cat1 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:26 pm

why does it have windows?

jokes :P :lol: :lol: :D
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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by tm74sqn » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:35 pm

Probably uses Widows 11 software - much better than Widows for DOS v3.1 I hope . . . .

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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by tm74sqn » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:36 pm

tm74sqn wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:35 pm
Probably uses Widows 11 software - much better than Windows for DOS v3.1 I hope . . . .

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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by baz1 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:40 pm

cat1 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:26 pm
why does it have windows?

jokes :P :lol: :lol: :D
so they can see to take off and land :D
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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by mushbuster » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:12 pm

rik1301 wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:18 am
To pre-empt the inevitable question "why does it have windows?" - unlike the P-8s, the E-7s were not ordered in large enough numbers to get their own windowless barrel, so they were made based on the "YG" barrel spec which is the same one used for the BBJs and 737-700 Combis and then had the windows plugged later.

Here is one of the old Australian E-7s for reference : https://www.airliners.net/photo/Austral ... ES/1166079
Rik, makes a bit of sense, however is there a reason why they did not use the P-8 barrel or is it simply a production sequencing issue?

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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by Alf » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:20 pm

mushbuster wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:12 pm
rik1301 wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:18 am
To pre-empt the inevitable question "why does it have windows?" - unlike the P-8s, the E-7s were not ordered in large enough numbers to get their own windowless barrel, so they were made based on the "YG" barrel spec which is the same one used for the BBJs and 737-700 Combis and then had the windows plugged later.

Here is one of the old Australian E-7s for reference : https://www.airliners.net/photo/Austral ... ES/1166079
Rik, makes a bit of sense, however is there a reason why they did not use the P-8 barrel or is it simply a production sequencing issue?
If they used the P-8 then it would not be an E-7 , its a different size etc.. so way more costly than just build another already proven E-7 like the RAAF ones etc.

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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by Davef68 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:52 pm

mushbuster wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:12 pm
Rik, makes a bit of sense, however is there a reason why they did not use the P-8 barrel or is it simply a production sequencing issue?
P-8 is based on the -800 series 737 fuselage, E-7 on the -700, so Wedgetail is about 19 feet shorter. There was a rumour early on that the RAF had ordered a -800 based version, but thankfully that turned out to be just whispers

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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:13 pm

TomG wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:06 pm
page_verify wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:12 pm
The MoD already has a way of using very small fleets of highly valuable assets to meet some of its most critical needs (Nimrod R1, RC-135, Vanguard, Astute, etc.) so I expect the powers that be are already familiar with what they need to do to be successful.
Quite an assumption and time will tell.
Not really an assumption. It’s fact. E-3 falls into the same category in later years too.

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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by Evergreen 44 » Sun May 22, 2022 7:48 pm

RAF a/c #3 the new-build, has made it''s first flight by March 2022 and on flight #4 gone from Boeing Field to Delaware 25-03-22 as BOE149
Fuselage details : msn 66840, line number 9103, test reg. N576JK
Presumably for aux.tank installation prior to onward conversion

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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by NorvilleRogers » Mon May 23, 2022 7:15 am

rik1301 wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:11 am
First sightings of the one and only new build, LN 9103 N576JK 66840. Should test fly as BOE149 then fly to GED for aux tank installation, then to BHX for conversion work to begin.
https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/sta ... 9947580418
GED is where?

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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by POL » Mon May 23, 2022 7:55 am

Delaware as per the post immediately above yours.

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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by Ravendriver2008 » Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:19 pm

Anyhow a milestone has been reached

https://raf.mod.uk/news/articles/e-7-we ... milestone/

The Royal Air Force’s E-7 Wedgetail AEW1 Programme has reached another milestone with Officer Commanding VIII Squadron (Designate), Wing Commander Sarah McDonnell, qualifying on type.

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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by FlyingFairy » Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:59 pm

Ravendriver2008 wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:19 pm
Anyhow a milestone has been reached

https://raf.mod.uk/news/articles/e-7-we ... milestone/

The Royal Air Force’s E-7 Wedgetail AEW1 Programme has reached another milestone with Officer Commanding VIII Squadron (Designate), Wing Commander Sarah McDonnell, qualifying on type.
In another break from RAF tradition, I believe Wg Cdr McDonnell will be the first non traditional aircrew (she is a Fighter Controller) to command an operational squadron.

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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by Sparts99 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 12:00 pm

Kind of makes sense given the aircrafts function. Having said that haven't a fair few aircrew originally joined the RAF in a different role?
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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by Unknown74 » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:30 am

Reduce the number of Politicians & use the money to find the 2 Wedgetails which were not bought. Simple.

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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by baz1 » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:56 am

Unknown74 wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:30 am
Reduce the number of Politicians & use the money to find the 2 Wedgetails which were not bought. Simple.
nothing is that Simple in this day and age.
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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by Unknown74 » Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:56 am

True, just wishful thinking I suppose……?

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Re: E7 Wedgetail order reduction

Post by freebird » Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:09 pm

Unknown74 wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:30 am
Reduce the number of Politicians & use the money to find the 2 Wedgetails which were not bought. Simple.
Unfortunately the people at the MOD f****d up big time, when the singed the contract for the five jets. Even though the cancelled two jets, they still have to pay for them. Not only that, they will also need to pay for the kit that should have gone inside these cancelled two jets. So not to put a finer point on it. The RAF will get three E-7s, but have to pay for all five. Wonderful. :Oops:

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