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MC-130J Float plane, what next!

Post by Ghost from above » Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:38 am

Air Force Special Operations Command (AFSOC) Commander Lt. Gen. Jim Slife told reporters on the 20th September that there are plans to demonstrate an amphibious version of the MC-130J Hercules by the end of next year.

Interesting to also note on Tuesday 9th November deputy commander of Air Force Special Operations Command, Maj. Gen. Eric Hill, visited Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni, Japan to look at a ShinMaywa US-2 amphibious aircraft.

Looks like at least one airframe will be completed for testing by the end of 2022. Cant wait to see this flying, here's hoping they get a few and we get a visit to Mildenhall.

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Re: MC-130J Float plane, what next!

Post by Rugbyref » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:52 am

That is one ugly bird!

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Post by Ghost from above » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:44 am

Rugbyref wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:52 am
That is one ugly bird!
Bet it handles like a brick
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Post by Supra » Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:17 am

Talk about re-inventing the wheel! :O Cheaper & quieter than developing a C-130J Hybrid that could easily end up in another 'Credible Sport' fiasco? ( See minute 1-25 of https://youtu.be/fSFjhWw4DNo)
ShinMaywa US-2 - Wikipedia
Ladies & Gentlemen, I give you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShinMaywa_US-2
The ShinMaywa US-2 is a Japanese large short takeoff and landing amphibious aircraft developed and manufactured by seaplane specialist ShinMaywa (formerly Shin Meiwa). It was developed from the earlier Shin Meiwa US-1A seaplane, which was introduced during the 1970s.

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Post by Sparts99 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:48 am

Supra wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:17 am
Talk about re-inventing the wheel! :O Cheaper & quieter than developing a C-130J Hybrid that could easily end up in another 'Credible Sport' fiasco? ( See minute 1-25 of https://youtu.be/fSFjhWw4DNo)
ShinMaywa US-2 - Wikipedia
Ladies & Gentlemen, I give you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShinMaywa_US-2
The ShinMaywa US-2 is a Japanese large short takeoff and landing amphibious aircraft developed and manufactured by seaplane specialist ShinMaywa (formerly Shin Meiwa). It was developed from the earlier Shin Meiwa US-1A seaplane, which was introduced during the 1970s.
Has the US-2 got the freight capacity of a C-130? US-2 appears to be ASW and ASR rather than cargo or troop carrying. But having said that the pic of the floatplane C-130 does just look wrong. The wheels look like beaching gear rather than proper undercarriage.
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Post by Alf » Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:00 pm

Supra wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:17 am
Talk about re-inventing the wheel! :O Cheaper & quieter than developing a C-130J Hybrid that could easily end up in another 'Credible Sport' fiasco? ( See minute 1-25 of https://youtu.be/fSFjhWw4DNo)
ShinMaywa US-2 - Wikipedia
Ladies & Gentlemen, I give you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShinMaywa_US-2
The ShinMaywa US-2 is a Japanese large short takeoff and landing amphibious aircraft developed and manufactured by seaplane specialist ShinMaywa (formerly Shin Meiwa). It was developed from the earlier Shin Meiwa US-1A seaplane, which was introduced during the 1970s.
The original post already comments on the US-2.

i[]interesting to also note on Tuesday 9th November deputy commander of Air Force Special Operations Command, Maj. Gen. Eric Hill, visited Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni, Japan to look at a ShinMaywa US-2 amphibious aircraft.[/i]

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Post by f-4 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:05 pm

Is it April 1 already?

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Post by Finty » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:18 pm

Looking forward to seeing it on Llyn Mwyngil…
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Re: MC-130J Float plane, what next!

Post by David Vincent » Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:26 am

Lockheed had proposed an amphibious version of the C-130 in the mid-1960s, it looked quite good, a lot like a large Grumman Albatros rather than a Hercules with floats bolts to it!
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Post by Supra » Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:34 pm

Just need to remember NOT to lower the rear Ramp on the water! :whistle: Older members may remember the 'Herald of Free Enterprise' Tragedy. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Herald ... Enterprise)

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Post by Agent K » Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:16 pm

Supra wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:34 pm
Just need to remember NOT to lower the rear Ramp on the water! :whistle: Older members may remember the 'Herald of Free Enterprise' Tragedy. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Herald ... Enterprise)
Actually, given that it's a float plane rather than a flying boat, so the fuselage will not be watertight as such, that shouldn't be a problem and could be a usedul bit of functionality in the appropriate sea/water state

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Post by quid21 » Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:39 pm

Well they developed a C-130 with a Ski setup, so why not!

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Post by Magpie » Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:10 pm

f-4 wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:05 pm
Is it April 1 already?
Lol just what I was thinking :D
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Post by raptor9 » Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:31 pm

Supra, Really sad day. A widow on our estate in Aylesbury lost both her daughters in that awful, yet so obvious, accident.

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Post by cat1 » Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:27 pm

that looks like the floats from a cessna 172 with a undersised c-130 gluded to the bottom
gonna be difficult to build as none of the engineres will want to look at it finished
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Post by roughcutter » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:47 am

Looks a bit "bolt on" and as previously mentioned, would most likely handle like a brick. On dry land because of those floats the aircraft would be so elevated that it would need extra high ramps for loading. It would be interesting to see a Herc with a hull type fuselage, but then we're dwelling into the realms of fantasy. Horses for courses I guess.

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Re: MC-130J Float plane, what next!

Post by Supra » Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:23 am

Agent K wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:16 pm
Supra wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:34 pm
Just need to remember NOT to lower the rear Ramp on the water! :whistle: Older members may remember the 'Herald of Free Enterprise' Tragedy. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Herald ... Enterprise)
Actually, given that it's a float plane rather than a flying boat, so the fuselage will not be watertight as such, that shouldn't be a problem and could be a usedul bit of functionality in the appropriate sea/water state
Probably should've copied the post directly above mine as my response was regarding ......"it looked quite good, a lot like a large Grumman Albatros rather than a Hercules with floats bolts to it!" Sorry to cause confusion. :blush:

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Re: MC-130J Float plane, what next!

Post by Agent K » Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:14 pm

Supra wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:23 am
Sorry to cause confusion. :blush:
No worries and it raised an interesting point for comment and thoughts anyway!

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Post by 22A » Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:49 pm

Finty wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:18 pm
Looking forward to seeing it on Llyn Mwyngil…
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Re: MC-130J Float plane, what next!

Post by Vulture 01 » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:48 am

Douglas fitted floats to the C47 during the war, so there is a precedence of sorts for this.
Also, you need to consider where the aircraft might be used before discussing extra high loading gear etc.

Thankfully it doesn't look as if BAe will get involved in this.....
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