F35 Update

[Blackcat1]

Bear in mind that HMS QE may have been stationary in the water during this incident. The F-35B does not need wind over the bow to take off. Refer the testing and training videos on YouTube showing take-offs from non-moving ramps on the ground. Here's one:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNSO3NqVU2E

'Lift is a gift, thrust is a must' as the saying goes! There was a problem with thrust, caused by ... I don't know.

Computer said no? . Glad the pilot got out safely .

[Crusty]

From the video of the event the pilot seems to eject over the bow of the ship and if so was lucky not to have been run over by it.

Apparently his chute snagged the corner of the ramp and he then released himself and dropped 60' to waves, he was very lucky

[Snoop 95]

Interesting comment on this website about why it has taken some time to locate the wreckage of this F35B. As you would expect the precise location of the ship was noted when the incident occurred, but the aircraft essentially 'flew' under the water because the wings were doing their job and supporting it.https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/crashed ... n-sea-bed/

[jamesg23]

new rumour heard and it apparently sucked in a helicopter intake cover (cant see that happening myself) and it was an American pilot.

[DavieB]

new rumour heard and it apparently sucked in a helicopter intake cover (cant see that happening myself) and it was an American pilot.

The UK MoD has already publicly briefed it was a British pilot, although no elaboration as to whether RAF or RN. Not too sure they would release such a blatent untruth or why. Where's your rumour from, reliable?

[steamy]

I heard another rumour, that I just made up there, that it was an Algerian pilot and the F-35 sucked in his camel cover... camel is OK though

[AndrewBarclay]

I heard another rumour, that I just made up there, that it was an Algerian pilot and the F-35 sucked in his camel cover... camel is OK though

[baz1]

I heard another rumour, that I just made up there, that it was an Algerian pilot and the F-35 sucked in his camel cover... camel is OK though

so were was his camel parked up on a Aircraft Carrier???? better suited to the Desert!

[steamy]

he was on a training mission, special ops supposedly

[i6720]

Back on thread..
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/269634
lists ZM152 as the unfortunate jet seemingly confirming Phils's earlier post on page 1 of this thread.

[Snoop 95]

The expected attrition rate of UK F35B's is shown here and is one loss per 30000 hours of flying. As UK jets have flown 10000 hours, with this present loss we are well ahead of the curve
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/f-35-fl ... -revealed/

[slogen51]

If ZM152 is the article then I am glad I made the effort to watch Ghost 21 leave Marham for the Carrier back in May as I only saw it once before as a distant view on the ILS to 24 at Lakenheath.

[roger4]

ZM152 now reported as having been recovered from the seabed:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/hms- ... -xn0dhfp9x

[plmc135]

New gate guard for Marham then

[Typeflyer]

If ZM152 is the article then I am glad I made the effort to watch Ghost 21 leave Marham for the Carrier back in May as I only saw it once before as a distant view on the ILS to 24 at Lakenheath.

I was even luckier seeing it on HMSQE at Portsmouth!

[ZackG]

Reported to be a chartered salvage ship. Can anyone ID it or have any idea of the fate? A soggy F-35 going through Portsmouth harbour is probably not what the MOD needs right now!

[Yammer]

some media reports of the wreck going to an allies airbase in the Med - my *guess* to Sigonella

[Hurn]

I heard another rumour, that I just made up there, that it was an Algerian pilot and the F-35 sucked in his camel cover... camel is OK though

I heard it was a piece of the camel, which is now a dromedary, and the annoyed F-35 pilot has still got the hump.

[Andy Marden]

The expected attrition rate of UK F35B's is shown here and is one loss per 30000 hours of flying. As UK jets have flown 10000 hours, with this present loss we are well ahead of the curve
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/f-35-fl ... -revealed/

Statistically, no we are not, unless we had a second loss within the first 30000 hours.

[Mark]

I heard another rumour, that I just made up there, that it was an Algerian pilot and the F-35 sucked in his camel cover... camel is OK though

I heard it was a piece of the camel, which is now a dromedary, and the annoyed F-35 pilot has still got the hump.

Have I logged into UKAR by mistake???