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Defense Bill let USAF retire older Eagles and Warthogs BUT not Raptors

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Re: Defense Bill let USAF retire older Eagles and Warthogs BUT not Raptors

Post by Sparts99 » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:13 pm

Interesting idea to give the A-10s to Ukraine, I'd imagine they'd be really useful. Although with my limited knowledge I am suprised the USAF wants to retire the A-10, seems like a really good CAS platform for a conflict in a busy environment and CSAR. When the A-10 and its competitors were up for selection the low speed of the A-10 was seen as a great advantage. An improved A-7 Corsair was proposed, it would have had a supersonic dash over the target and FEBA (Forward Edge of Battle Area) but its high speed was actually a disadvantgae as it after an attack it would have spent too long in hostile airspace.
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Re: Defense Bill let USAF retire older Eagles and Warthogs BUT not Raptors

Post by Ghastly Whisper » Sun Dec 10, 2023 3:13 pm

It does not actually say Ukraine, the reporter has added that part. No surprise on the A-10s, the USAF has been after getting shut of them for years, they are just not get up and go cosmic enough!! As for the F-22s daft of the USAF to accept them in the first place knowing they would never be combat capable. Like buying a car with no engine to learn how to drive!!!

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Re: Defense Bill let USAF retire older Eagles and Warthogs BUT not Raptors

Post by Snoop 95 » Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:57 pm

If memory serves the USAF have wanted to retire the A10 for years, but pressure from land forces has caused the DoD to instruct that it stays in service.

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Re: Defense Bill let USAF retire older Eagles and Warthogs BUT not Raptors

Post by Alf » Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:34 am

The plan to retire 118 F-15E Strike Eagles is not mentioned, originally half the fleet was due to go. Has this been shelved?

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Re: Defense Bill let USAF retire older Eagles and Warthogs BUT not Raptors

Post by Alanm28 » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:22 pm

As mentioned the airforce have wanted to retire the hogs forever ,I don’t think They should be sent to UKraine ! I don’t feel the air superiority is good enough for them to make a worthwhile impact on the Russian armour , without taking large losses.

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Re: Defense Bill let USAF retire older Eagles and Warthogs BUT not Raptors

Post by verreli » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:00 pm

Surely it's manpads that pose the risk to A-10's these days.

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