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plane crashes near Binbrook

Post by rorybean » Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:51 pm

Many thanks for quick application.
I am looking for possible crashes in the binbrook area of Lincolnshire. Although i am mainly looking at bombers my father saw many crash sites during ww2 and beyond. One of these was the 1952 canberra crash near Binbrook. I am told one plane crash during ww2 may have been a blenheim. Does this come under bomber command?. I have seen a record of a Hurricane crash in the area but he seems to believe this may have been too small. Have looked at the BCAR website but although this gives general locations, i cannot seem to narrow to specific crash sites. Any advice would be welcome.
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Post by paddyboy » Wed Aug 31, 2022 3:41 am

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Re: plane crashes near Binbrook

Post by CookipediaChef » Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:28 am

rorybean wrote:
Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:51 pm
Many thanks for quick application.
I am looking for possible crashes in the binbrook area of Lincolnshire. Although i am mainly looking at bombers my father saw many crash sites during ww2 and beyond. One of these was the 1952 canberra crash near Binbrook. I am told one plane crash during ww2 may have been a blenheim. Does this come under bomber command?. I have seen a record of a Hurricane crash in the area but he seems to believe this may have been too small. Have looked at the BCAR website but although this gives general locations, i cannot seem to narrow to specific crash sites. Any advice would be welcome.
Dave
Maybe take a trip to Coningsby, BBMF centre. Clive Rowley, ex pilot, BBMF commander, etc. etc. usually volunteers as a guide on a Tuesday and he is an extremely knowledgable and helpful chap. From the time we spent on our tour with him as a guide, I would be surprised if he didn't also have a record of the pilots involved too. Almost without saying, the tour is worth the visit on its own anyway!
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Re: plane crashes near Binbrook

Post by rorybean » Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:52 pm

Thanks for the response.This sounds like a good idea. I have visited a couple of museums and bomber command lincoln with limited success. Coningsby is not too far away so maybe worth a visit. Have had a couple of recommendations for books. Lincolnshire Air Wars by Finn and Aircraft crashes in Traditional county of Lincolnshire. Anybody read these and would i gain more info with regards to the area i am researching. ie: Binbrook , Kelstern, Ludford. Many thanks Dave

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Re: plane crashes near Binbrook

Post by JAWS » Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:47 pm

I found these :

Wellington II W5611 1942
https://www.northlincsweb.net/RAFElsham ... ingto.html

Lancaster DV173 1943
https://aviationmuseumwa.org.au/afcraaf ... 216-dv173/

Lincoln RA712 1951
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/25324

Canberra WD994 1952
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/20531

B-17G F-BEEA 1989
Lincoln RA712 1951
https://www.baaa-acro.com/city/binbrook-afb

B-17G F-BEEA 1989
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... _11-89.pdf

All Lightning crashes, seeing as they were based at Binbrook, there's got to be a couple ! 1960 onwards
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_acc ... _Lightning

BCAR - Crash Logs over many years in Lincolnshire
http://www.bcar.org.uk/index

This website has multiple "aircraft lost" listings for 1940-1945 but to gain access it will cost 25GBP
https://wartimememoriesproject.com/ww2/ ... p?pid=1692
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Re: plane crashes near Binbrook

Post by rorybean » Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:51 pm

Hi Jaws.
Many thanks for links. Have already spent a couple of hours looking at your suggestions and have seen some useful info. will delve further at the weekend and may request info on what i have seen so far.
Regards Grateful Dave.

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Re: plane crashes near Binbrook

Post by JAWS » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:02 pm

Dave,

found some more

Lincolnshire (& elsewhere) 1942-1945 - doesn't give details of the actual crash, but lists aircraft type, reg, Squadron, home base and the names of the crews
https://www.geograph.org.uk/article/Eas ... emorials/7

Crash Site Memorials around Lincolshire with 24 entries with maps of Memorial locations
https://heritage-explorer.lincolnshire. ... erm/133135

This covers near RAF Elsham Wolds & North Lincolnshire area
https://www.northlincsweb.net/RAFElsham ... ashes.html

Lancaster NG269 1946 Normanby-Le-Wold
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/24943

This one's has basic info but pretty definitive
"AIRCRAFT CRASHES IN THE TRADITIONAL COUNTY OF LINCOLNSHIRE 1914-2018.- T. N. Hancock"
https://air-britain.com/pdfs/military/C ... nshire.pdf

Should give you plenty of reading to do. Enjoy !

Steve....
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Re: plane crashes near Binbrook

Post by rorybean » Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:46 pm

Steve Thanks for this new info, as my previous entry i am really interested in the T. N. Hancock link. I was in the process of going to Lincoln Library to obtain a copy of his book. In fact i went on Monday but being a Bank Holiday it was closed. (The website said it was open). You have saved me time and car parking fees, so much appreciated. The Elsham site is one i have looked at and hope to contact with regards to crashes in the south of its catchment area.. Lots of reading to do. I will enjoy !!

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Post by NAM Updater » Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:15 am

If you send me an email via the NAM email address admin (AT) newarkairmuseum.org I will send you a PDF files of various aviation guides that I compiled for several Lincs District Councils - this might help you tie down a few locations, especially those that have memorials.

Also the NAM Shop might have pre-owned copies of Terry Hancock's book on sale - but I would need to check that out for you.
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Re: plane crashes near Binbrook

Post by rorybean » Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:10 am

So thought i would give an update on the research and and now have three confirmed sites to plane crashes in the Tealby/ Binbrook area. Still along way to go but learning so much so fast. The two Lincolnshire air books by S Finn and T Hancocks research have been a great source and also the BCAR website have given me excellent help. I feel i should not give precise site details at present as the sites are on private land.
David

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