RAF NEWTON

[Everett1285]

Hi,
In the mid sixties whilst a member of the Air Training Corps at Stamford, Lincs I paid several trips to RAF Newton to carry out air experience flights in the Chipmunks of 7 Air Experience Flight/Nottingham Universities Air Squadron. On several occasions whilst awaiting flights I managed to cadge a look into one of the hangars containing a number of instructional airframes belonging to the School of Technical Training based there including a Vulcan, Canberra and various others. Can anyone please help identify the School of Technical Training based there and the various airframes situated there during this period plus any further coming and goings upto Newtons final closure.

Regards
Everett1285

[JAWS]

It was 9 SoTT which was a guided weapons college , I will see what else I can find and post again later .

[Everett1285]

Cheers Steve much appreciated.

Regards
Colin

[Vulcanone]

The Vulcan was broken up in the early/mid 70s and a Hunter F.2 ended up on the fire dump. Another went on the gate (F.1 WT694)

I know the Hunter was on the dump in the 1980s as we had an ATC camp there as well. And we did a walk around the base perimeter ( I didn't have a camera on me that day) Sure enough it was there for all of us to see

Tim S (866 Immingham) Sqn

[rh226]

A quick look at UK serials shows that:-
Vulcan B.1 XA905/7857M was there until it was scrapped 29/01/1974.

Shackleton MR.1A/T.4 WB849/8026M was flown there on 30/07/1968 and later scrapped
Chipmunk T.10 WD352/7597M was broken up for spares on 21/05/1969
Shackleton MR.3 WR990/8107M was ferried there on 17/10/1970 and broken up 29/01/1974
Hunter F.1 WT559/7493M perished on the fire dump in 1968.
Javelin FAW.8 XH972/7834M arrived 23/07/1964 and scrapped in 1967
Javelin FAW.8 XJ116/7832M and scrapped 12/03/1974
Javelin FAW.8 XJ117/7833M and scrapped 12/03/1974
Jet Provost T.3A XN641/8865M was w/o 11/05/1984, to Newton and perished

What was there on the field on my visit on 21 May 1982 (identical to 5 October 1980) was:-

Friday 21/05/1982

The final travelling bit of this saga as we return to Mildenhall.

Newton
WT694/Y...............Hunter F.1................Gate - in 43 Sqdn marks....7510M to Caernafon Air World
WN901..................Hunter F.2................Fire Dump.....................7543M perished in 1993
WL627/O...............Varsity T.1................Dump..........................8488M and scrapped
WJ867..................Canberra T.4..............Dump..........................8643M this was all white. Subsequently went to Catterick in January 1986 and perished

Hope that this helps a bit.

Bob

[JAWS]

Here's what I managed to dig up , doubt if it's complete .

XM170 Lightning F.1A - Arrived 3/1965
XM187 Lightning F.1A - Arrived 2/1964
XA905 Vulcan B.1 - Arrived 7/1964
WB849 Shackleton T.4 - Arrived 30/7/1968
WR990 Shackleton MR.3 - Arrived 17/10/1970
XM271 Canberra - Can't find arrival date
XJ116 Javelin FAW.8 - Can't find arrival date but scrapped in 1974
XJ117 Javelin FAW.8 - Can't find arrival date but scrapped in 1974
XH972 Javelin FAW.8 - Arrived 23/7/1964
XM402 Jet Provost T.2 - Arrived 11/1969
XM404 Jet Provost T.2 - Arrived 11/1969
WN904 Hunter F.2 - Arrived by 1959
WV265 Hunter F.4 - Can't find arrival date
WL637 Varsity T.1 - Arr 22/10/1970

[Vulcanone]

Thanks STEVIEJAWS

Just to add that XM170 went to the fire dump at Swinderby, XM187 to Coningsby.

I think the Shackleton may have been on the fire dump before the Hunter F.2, but without digging up my records/files I cannot say for sure.

Tim

[rh226]

You just beat my edit, Steve. Yours is far more complete, but I think I might have one or two extra details to pad it out.

[Vulcanone]

The Canberra would have been about 1972 after they were all replaced by Harrier (3 Sqn) and Buccaneer 16 Sqn)

Tim

[Everett1285]

Thanks very much to everyone for your efforts and time it's really appreciated.

Regards
Colin

[rh226]

Just to add a little bit to Steve's excellent listing:-

Vulcan B.1 XA908 - There could not have been very much of this at all, if anything. This was the one that crashed into Detroit, MI on 24/10/1958. See http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=55326

Canberra B(I).8 XM271/8204M - I've actually got this as being at Halton until 1981, when it went to Foulness and scrapped in April 1991.
Jet Provost T.3 XM402/8055AM - To Newton 21/11/1969, to Halton 22/02/1974 until May 1990. Now with West Walton Highway, Wisbech
Jet Provost T.3 XM404/8055BM - To Newton 21/11/1969, to Halton 25/02/1974 until April 1993. Then to Moreton-in-the-Marsh until Sept 2014 when to Bruntingthorpe and scrapped as too far gone for restoration.
Hunter F.2 WN904/7544M - s.o.c. 22/11/1957 and to 12 SoTT Melksham, then to Newton by 1959 where she stayed until 1974. To IWM Duxford until 1989 when to Waterbeach as Gate Guard. To Sywell Museum in August 2012.
Hunter F.4 WV265/7684M - Scrapped 29/01/1974.
Varsity T.1 WL637/8105M - Arrived Newton 22/10/1970 and subsequently scrapped.

[Vulcanone]

rh226

Just for the record WN904 is a Hunter F.2. I cannot actually remember which F.2 was on the fire dump (anyone else remember?) I think there is only that one left as another was scrapped in the early 90s when the MoD had is crazy clearout sessions which included an early Javelin at Stafford as well.

I suppose the Health and safety brigade appeared and said nope its beyond saving....

[rh226]

Tim, that was a bit of finger trouble on my part. Of course it was an F.2.

The F.2 on the Fire Dump was WN901 - see my earlier post (and Day 8 of my "Those were the Days" posts). I can absolutely confirm this as I walked over the fields to it from the back road and eyeballed the serial under the wings!!!

[JAWS]

Just to add a little bit to Steve's excellent listing:-

Vulcan B.1 XA908 - There could not have been very much of this at all, if anything. This was the one that crashed into Detroit, MI on 24/10/1958. See http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=55326

I am now thinking the source I found made a mistake and this was XA905 , so I would scrub XA908 .

[Everett1285]

Thanks again everyone for the further updates it's much appreciated.

Regards
Colin

[teeonefixer]

In my wild student days I used to pop up to RAF Newton, often to meet my chums flying with EMUAS.
I've extracted sections from my logbook (in excel so it doesn't copy too well) to show what I found on my visits plus when I logged the locals.
Hope you can follow it.
The only difference from earlier posts is Hunter WV265 - is this a mistake ?
(I have a1973 Wrecks and Relics somewhere in the depths of the garage!)

Hunter F.2 WN904 7544M 2 RAF Newton 28/03/1974
Vulcan B.1 XA905 7875M RAF Newton 28/03/1974
Shackleton MR.3 WR990 8107M N Newton 28/03/1974
Lightning F1 XM187 7838M D 111 squ Newton 28/03/1974
Canberra B(I)8 XM271 8204M 16sq Newton 28/03/1974
Chipmunk T.10 WB562 F EMUAS Newton 28/03/1974
Chipmunk T.10 WG308 E EMUAS Newton 28/03/1974
Chipmunk T.10 WG403 04/X EMUAS Newton 28/03/1974
Chipmunk T.10 WG469 EMUAS Newton 28/03/1974
Chipmunk T.10 WK591 Y 7AEF Newton 28/03/1974
Chipmunk T.10 WK640 L 7AEF Newton 28/03/1974
Varsity T.1 WL637 8105M Newton 28/03/1974 firedump
Chipmunk T.10 WP984 EMUAS o/f LUT 19/01/1974
Chipmunk T.10 WZ878 EMUAS o/f LUT 19/01/1974
Chipmunk T.10 WZ884 P EMUAS o/f LUT 28/01/1974
Bulldog T.1 XX630 gamma EMUAS Newton 15/02/1975
Bulldog T.1 XX635 delta EMUAS Newton 15/02/1975
Bulldog T.1 XX638 alpha EMUAS Newton 15/02/1975
Hunter F.4 WV265 7684M Newton 15/02/1975 firedump
Bulldog T.1 XX640 Epsilon EMUAS Coningsby 09/06/1976
Bulldog T.1 XX639 Beta EMUAS o/f LUT 13/06/1976
Hunter F.1 WT694 7510M Newton 22/06/1975

[LM47]

Apologies for hijacking the thread. Anyone know the serial of a Lightning T4 or T5 which was being used for missile loading training in the early eighties?
THanks
RG

[rh226]

As it seems to have absolutely nothing to do with RAF Newton, I would suggest that very few people would actually look at this query.

It would have been better to have started a new thread. Perhaps you could do so and may you have good luck with it!! Sorry, but I can't answer it.

[Vulcanone]

The Lightning was XS451 which left Binbrook in 1975/76 for St Athan and then left for Newton.

As for its eventual fate of going to Cranfield Plymouth etc then becoming a flier with Thunder City the less said the better

Tim

[rh226]

Well done, Tim. A bit of digging eventually revealed that it arrived at Newton in June 1978 and departed sometime in 1988.

Credit http://www.aviationinmalta.com/Military ... fault.aspx