Help needed: - GUARDN83

[Malfatron Malkovic]

XV671 would be my stab, Dave. Coded 183, usually ties in with the callsign. The timings on live log were consistent with it's movements yesterday. I haven't looked out there today.

As i have mentioned before,also on live logs the Baggers return false. XV707 returns as XV714??(sic).
XV697/187 returns as an E-6B.

[EGDR]

Okay this one (GUARDN83) got me stuck. Its showing on my system, now I can guess the callsign = one of the Sea King Asac7's but which one. Its mode-S box is displaying 249249, which is way wrong and seems to be a code used to mask, been used by others, mainly USAF airframes. Its using squawk 7030, which is Culdrose, so does seem like a base Sea King.

If anyone know or can shed light, I'd me grateful.

Currently showing:

2 x 771 up (XV666 & XV647)
1 x 824 up (ZH845)
and this other that needs correctly IDing

Dave

That would explain why I keep seeing E-6s popping up on your logs, thought this might be the case.

[Malfatron Malkovic]

He's on comms now as Guardn83, so will keep ear out see if can id. But XV671 is interesting as its the only one I can't find ICAO Mode-S code for?

Sorry, Dave. I've just edited my post. I hope this info is a help, helps clear things up a little.
I snapped XV671 yesterday, but have not the time to upload now, if it is essential,l of any use? Then i can go through them tomorrow.

[EGDR]

Malf,

As i have mentioned before,also on live logs the Baggers return false. XV707 returns as XV714??(sic).
XV697/187 returns as an E-6B.

the E6-B is because of this 249249 code being used

I've got note of that, again need to match the Mode-S code they are using to the reg, the baggers seem to have swapped boxes at some point, but which ones not sure. FYI - here is a site that shows Mode-S codes to UK Mil frames, not saying its up to date, just as a base line. http://www.dtvmovements.co.uk/Info/UKModeSMil.htm

I'd like to add the correct mode-s codes next to each of your frames in the Culdrose Based Aircraft post of yours, once 100% sure of each.

That would certainly help me for writing conditional expressions for PP.

[Malfatron Malkovic]

Yep thats why Kyle.

Looks like it could be XV671 which I think should have Mode-s code 43c63c Seems to have been using code 249249 for number of weeks, as I'm seeing that code in my reports for call signs: GUARDN83, GUARDO87, GUARDN87, ORACLE87, ORACLE80, NAVY180, STING87

Mal, no problem - think this one is going to have to be daytime visit, when I see it on screen take a drive and use MK1 eye Ball to ID.

GUARDN83=XV671 , GUARD087, GUARDN87, ORACLE87, STING87 = XV672, ORACLE80 = XV649 these plus XV707/184 and XV697/181 are the only Baggers that i have noticed active this year.

[Malfatron Malkovic]

For the Baggers, the callsigns and codes always tie in true. For example Sting, Guardian, Oracle, Navy 80 would always be XV649/180. ie The Bagger code/serial/airframe tie-ups haven't changed in at least 8 years. Callsigns almost always remain true to the code.Thus reference the fleet list for callsign and you should be safe.
Likewise for the Rescue cab fleet, for example Sierra 28 will be XV647.
Pingers often change codes, so a more tricky prospect.
I trust this goes some way to help you?

[POL]

Mode-S codes are programmed in to transponders as decimals (this is done by maintenance crews, not pilots). Mode-S hexadecimal 249249 equates to a Mode-S decimal of 11111111 - simply a case of laziness/misunderstanding/needing to put something in but no one cares what, perhaps.

[id2770]

Just to confuse things a bit hex code 43C637 which should unless they have swapped boxes be XV649 according to my notes, was showing on PP in January with callsigns Guardian 83 and Sting 83.

Iwan

[Nick.M]

I took these 12 months ago and confirm 83 as XV671.

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=73889

[Malfatron Malkovic]

Thank's for that, Nick.
Here it is this week:


Interestingly (at least for me), your snaps help confirm something for me. The Bagger fleet seem to be under some form of upgrade. I first noticed it on XV649 last April. Most noticeable are the additional aerials and antenna under the hull.

[C24]

Nice pic MM.
Interesting thread, must do some reading about this!

[tm74sqn]

I believe that the contract will be for 10 roll-on/roll-off systems, which infers to me that they will be (fairly!) easily transferred between individual Merlin HM.2s.
A team from Lockheed Martin’s Mission Systems and Training business and Elta Systems is competing against Thales UK for the systems contract – both parties have been awarded £6.5 million deals by the MoD to demonstrate and test their competing solutions. Lockheed Martin Mission Systems and Training is believed to be teaming with Israel Aerospace Industries subsidiary Elta. It is thought that the team has already flown the selected radar on a fixed-wing aircraft as part of the test program, that the radar is contained in a pod and that it would be fitted to existing hard points on the Merlin helicopter. The Thales Cerebrus system is an updated version of the Searchwater 2000 radar used onboard the Sea King ASaC.7s. Will be interesting to see who wins the contract - and what the modified Merlins will look like!
Regards, TM74

[Malfatron Malkovic]

Nice pic MM.
Interesting thread, must do some reading about this!

Good to hear you, Charley boy. Are you a-headed down to Predannack this June?

Interesting, but love that shot Malf, nice one Sir
I guess with one or more being retired, couple flying, maybe couple on ops. not too many left and a few more years to go to it's planned retirement in 2016.

Thank you sir. Mind you the King isn't dead yet, and there is always the slight possibility the King may live longer than expected!

[Aircraftpaulcornwall]

Hi Malf,
Beauty picture of the Sea King mate - as usual you were in the right place at the right time!! Very well done --Paul

[EGDR]

Interesting, but love that shot Malf, nice one Sir
I guess with one or more being retired, couple flying, maybe couple on ops. not too many left and a few more years to go to it's planned retirement in 2016.

Thank you sir. Mind you the King isn't dead yet, and there is always the slight possibility the King may live longer than expected![/quote]

Especially possible for the Mk.7s considering their replacement is a fair way off.

And of course, I agree with the others - great pic! Was that taken along the road? Would be quite helpful to know some spots for Mk.7s as I haven't got a shot AND read off any of them, but my list for photographing before retirement is coming along for the 771 cabs!

[Nick.M]

Thank's for that, Nick.
Here it is this week:


Interestingly (at least for me), your snaps help confirm something for me. The Bagger fleet seem to be under some form of upgrade. I first noticed it on XV649 last April. Most noticeable are the additional aerials and antenna under the hull.

I have a mate who is a Bagger pilot and I showed him the new antenna/aerials, he said they are just extra radio boxes and beacons fitted for the cabs that have been flying in theatre in Afghan.
He also confirmed that the baggers have been given an extra 2 year life extension

[Malfatron Malkovic]

Excellent news. I'd heard that there had been a lot of lobbying to get an extension for the Baggers, glad to hear that it's happened.

[POL]

Dave, check your Basestation.sqb file, what does it say for 249249? Mine shows:

249249 #Invalid #var #var # Various # Various

So if you're using mine, it might be that shared data has/is overwriting it?

[apgphoto]

GUARDN83=XV671 , GUARD087, GUARDN87, ORACLE87, STING87 = XV672, ORACLE80 = XV649 these plus XV707/184 and XV697/181 are the only Baggers that i have noticed active this year.

Are we saying that the hex 249249 is being used by two aircraft if the callsigns are allocated?

"249249" has been active at Aberporth over the last weeks, using ORACLE80 and GUARDN87, every-time its gone past the window I have missed it to eyeball it!