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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by jasonT1981 » Fri May 12, 2023 2:23 pm

RAF C130J Hercules added to static
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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by seven » Fri May 12, 2023 9:47 pm

Considering the circumstances, great addition :thumb:
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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by jasonT1981 » Sat May 13, 2023 12:07 am

Yeah, hopefully that means 2 Hercs at Cosford if the Falcons are jumping from one. Cosford said this evening it is still the plan for the jump.

It will, for most of us, be the very last time seeing an active service Herc from the RAF.
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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by jasonT1981 » Fri May 19, 2023 3:40 pm

Interesting change to the website. A C130 Herc is now listed in the flying. I wonder if this is just the Falcons or if there is something more?

Static herc also added to website now
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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by Gary » Fri May 19, 2023 5:30 pm

I would guess it’s the Falcons the a pass or two by the C-130

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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by PitchAxis » Sat May 20, 2023 3:00 pm

I can't make RIAT this year. Would it be fair to say Cosford is the second best airshow in UK calendar?

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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by Discodaz » Sat May 20, 2023 8:52 pm

PitchAxis wrote:
Sat May 20, 2023 3:00 pm
I can't make RIAT this year. Would it be fair to say Cosford is the second best airshow in UK calendar?
Judging by this years line up so far( and time us running out fast), I would say it's a million miles from the second best.
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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by jasonT1981 » Sat May 20, 2023 10:08 pm

Cosford line up isn't all that bad this year, the displays announced so far are all very good, the issue with it is that they need to fill it up a bit more as there is no way they are filling a full 6 hours like promised.

I think Flying Legends is looking better though.
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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by Andyph » Sun May 21, 2023 9:01 am

jasonT1981 wrote:
Sat May 20, 2023 10:08 pm
Cosford line up isn't all that bad this year, the displays announced so far are all very good, the issue with it is that they need to fill it up a bit more as there is no way they are filling a full 6 hours like promised.

I think Flying Legends is looking better though.
Don't believe a word - Cosford is awful!

If you can't make Fairford try KB, Radon, Athens, Nato Days - they are all an awesome experience.

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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by PitchAxis » Sun May 21, 2023 2:51 pm

Andyph wrote:
Sun May 21, 2023 9:01 am
jasonT1981 wrote:
Sat May 20, 2023 10:08 pm
Cosford line up isn't all that bad this year, the displays announced so far are all very good, the issue with it is that they need to fill it up a bit more as there is no way they are filling a full 6 hours like promised.

I think Flying Legends is looking better though.
Don't believe a word - Cosford is awful!

If you can't make Fairford try KB, Radon, Athens, Nato Days - they are all an awesome experience.
Thank you for the recommendations. Kleine Brogel looks very good.

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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by jasonT1981 » Sun May 21, 2023 4:02 pm

I don't think its fair to say 'Awful' every one of those displays are a good to great display, it isn't the quality that is the issue, it's the quantity. They really need to buff up the flying as it looks like a repeat of last years last minute change to flying times. Lessons haven't been learnt at a marketing level either and the communication is pee poor.

Cosford also have the problem of the civilian insurence. A few displays have already said it is now impossible to display at Cosford due to the MOD insurence being more than their appearence fee.

The line up does look more like a free seaside show though, thats another issue and they need to be open about the future of the Cosford airshow and if it is going to move to a more seaside/family orintated show. If people are going to be paying £35/70 for tickets, only to get a line-up we could expect at a seaside town for free then that may harm ticket sales in the future, expecially as it is the last remaining actual RAF Airshow, you expect displays etc you would not get anywhere else.
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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by PitchAxis » Sun May 21, 2023 8:56 pm

jasonT1981 wrote:
Sat May 20, 2023 10:08 pm

I think Flying Legends is looking better though.
I've just checked FLying Legends website. I'm curious to know why they pick the same dates as RIAT.. it would seem to limit ticket sales for a section of enthusiasts who would want to go to both.

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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by Nighthawke » Sun May 21, 2023 9:06 pm

You would need to ask the organisers. Regarding ticket sales, well Joe Public will take care of that. Enthusiasts aren't the only ones attending air events.

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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by jasonT1981 » Sun May 21, 2023 11:20 pm

PitchAxis wrote:
Sun May 21, 2023 8:56 pm
jasonT1981 wrote:
Sat May 20, 2023 10:08 pm

I think Flying Legends is looking better though.
I've just checked FLying Legends website. I'm curious to know why they pick the same dates as RIAT.. it would seem to limit ticket sales for a section of enthusiasts who would want to go to both.
There was events already booked on the airfield either side of RIAT weekend so it was only date they could have.

Besides, not the first time RIAT and Legends have clashed
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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by Andyph » Mon May 22, 2023 8:46 am

jasonT1981 wrote:
Sun May 21, 2023 4:02 pm
I don't think its fair to say 'Awful' every one of those displays are a good to great display, it isn't the quality that is the issue, it's the quantity. They really need to buff up the flying as it looks like a repeat of last years last minute change to flying times. Lessons haven't been learnt at a marketing level either and the communication is pee poor.

Cosford also have the problem of the civilian insurence. A few displays have already said it is now impossible to display at Cosford due to the MOD insurence being more than their appearence fee.

The line up does look more like a free seaside show though, thats another issue and they need to be open about the future of the Cosford airshow and if it is going to move to a more seaside/family orintated show. If people are going to be paying £35/70 for tickets, only to get a line-up we could expect at a seaside town for free then that may harm ticket sales in the future, expecially as it is the last remaining actual RAF Airshow, you expect displays etc you would not get anywhere else.
I disagree - it is awful!
I couldn't care about the communications - it's the lineup that is cringeworthy.
This is the RAF's only airshow and they serve up this - If I was the CAS I'd be embarrassed to put the services name against it.

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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by Andyph » Mon May 22, 2023 8:52 am

PitchAxis wrote:
Sun May 21, 2023 2:51 pm
Andyph wrote:
Sun May 21, 2023 9:01 am
jasonT1981 wrote:
Sat May 20, 2023 10:08 pm
Cosford line up isn't all that bad this year, the displays announced so far are all very good, the issue with it is that they need to fill it up a bit more as there is no way they are filling a full 6 hours like promised.

I think Flying Legends is looking better though.
Don't believe a word - Cosford is awful!

If you can't make Fairford try KB, Radon, Athens, Nato Days - they are all an awesome experience.
Thank you for the recommendations. Kleine Brogel looks very good.
KB is awesome ! both as a location and a lineup.

If the airshows were football clubs.
KB would be Barcelona - oozing class and quality.
Cosford would be Huddersfield Town clogging it on a wet Tuesday night

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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by pete310183 » Tue May 23, 2023 7:38 pm

I wouldn’t be surprised if Cosford manage to pull a couple of flypasts from the B1, should still be here for the date I’d imagine. Suspect that may lift the views of the line up.

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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by Gary » Wed May 24, 2023 7:35 am

Sally B has been temporarily grounded
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Update statement by B-17 Operator Elly Sallingboe on the Impending FAA B-17 AD - 24 May 2023.

After careful consideration it has now been decided to ground our beloved B-17 until the ongoing wing spar issues is sorted.

As I write this, we are working flat out to complete this difficult task, helped by our devoted team and many friends.

Thank you IWM Duxford for giving us space in the AirSpace Hangar to carry out the required work.

As we mentioned previously our Chief Engineer, Daryl Taplin, is in contact with the FAA, the CAA, and some US B-17 Operators via the B-17 Co-op. The wing spar and the spar caps have been the subject of earlier AD’s for more than twenty years.

Each winter, our engineers complete a comprehensive CAA-approved check with the help of NDT (Non-Destructive Testing) specialist Kearsley Airways. Also, our pilots have flown Sally B very gently, with low G loads for many decades.

We trust that our B-17 is structurally sound and can hopefully fly for many more years and will update you in due course.

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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by Discodaz » Wed May 24, 2023 10:46 am

great :roll: ..a cancellation to a poor line up airshow.just what we need although perfectly understandable.

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Re: RAF Cosford Airshow 2023

Post by Flightline UK » Wed May 24, 2023 1:37 pm

It is not a definite cancellation yet (See https://www.sallyb.org.uk/flying-programme.htm) though it all depends on how long the NDT takes, whether the results are positive and how quickly they get the green light from the regulator(s).

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