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**CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

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Re: **CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

Post by James Cutting » Fri May 28, 2021 4:15 pm

Bit bizarre have to agree - Seeing as I was at Brands Hatch for the British GT with 3,999 others! And Silverstone F1 GP is in July too. Weird.
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Re: **CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

Post by Nighthawke » Fri May 28, 2021 4:23 pm

BMrider wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 3:57 pm
Totally unnecessary :grr:
Well you're not in their shoes - none of us are. Clearly they have taken the decision they consider to be the right one. They have a duty of care towards everyone involved.

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Re: **CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

Post by algr61 » Fri May 28, 2021 4:36 pm

Easy way out rather than organise all the crowd controls etc etc. It is an open air show so no excuse for it to not go ahead

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Re: **CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

Post by page_verify » Fri May 28, 2021 6:43 pm

I have no way of knowing if this was the reason - but some credit card companies aren't releasing ticket sale funds to event organisers in order to protect their losses in the event of uninsurable and highly likely cancellations. Unless an event's got deep reserves then that'll kill their pre-show cash flow.

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Re: **CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

Post by Alfie » Fri May 28, 2021 9:09 pm

This procedures by credit card company isn't new it has been going on for some years now. I know of a large folk festival that was canceled for this reason four or five years ago now.

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Re: **CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

Post by Supra » Fri May 28, 2021 11:58 pm

Can it be that I'm the ONLY person on the Forum to appreciate this cancellation is sweet FA. to do with Covid19, Government Restrictions or even the financial risk to the Organisers. Nope! In fact (adopting Legalese text?) could this allegedly be more a case of an unsuitable venue in Terms of operating capacity, Staffing & ability to manage a public event such as the Flying Legends Show. A cursory check of the current status for Sywell to even operate as an airfield this coming week could yield unexpected results? ;)
From companies still not being able to give 50% of their pre-Covid services at this close stage to the new normality, right through to Events cancelled/postponed due to the Covid highly convenient 'Free Get outta Jail Card' ? :whistle:
On the above basis "Flying Legends 2021 at Sywell" maybe a top contender for 'Wet-fart of the Year Award' :grr:

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Re: **CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

Post by plmc135 » Sat May 29, 2021 7:40 am

Are you suggesting that Nick Grey in his letter is lying?

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Re: **CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

Post by C24 » Sat May 29, 2021 9:51 am

😷. 💉 💉 😎

Pause for thought.
Open air event, say 5000 persons over 3-5 hours. Socially distanced, some with masks, etc.

Those carrying C-19 use the limited number of facilities as expected and there are the points of contact to pass on the virus.

Shuttleworth is close to Bedford. Not worth the risk, so money spent and staying in isolation. Choice made👏👺🚀🛰
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Re: **CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

Post by James Cutting » Sat May 29, 2021 12:14 pm

So travelling to Portugal, up to 10-12,000 fans from the UK, for a game of football is fine?

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Re: **CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

Post by tm74sqn » Sat May 29, 2021 1:23 pm

It could be that the cost of insuring the event against cancellation, as well as other hazards, has made it unviable this year. Just my thoughts - no knowledge about such problems!

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Re: **CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

Post by Thunderbolt II » Sat May 29, 2021 3:38 pm

It gives me no pleasure to say it, but airshows in the UK have seemed to be in steady decline for at least the last 20 years, and I fear due to factors too numerous to mention they may be near the end of the line.

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Re: **CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

Post by peasus911 » Sat May 29, 2021 4:59 pm

Are the larger shows victims of Insurance premium hikes, presume if the date for the relaxation of measures moves then the premium goes up. I'm only guessing as I too find the decision to cancel before any official announcement seems very strange. Maybe it also has something to do with border controls as well as lots of people do come over from Europe.
Pure guesswork on my part but that does also seem to be what the organizers are using as well. I was so looking forward to the show at it's new location. Will just have to wait till 2022 now.

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Re: **CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

Post by jasonT1981 » Sat May 29, 2021 7:07 pm

I wonder if this has anything to do with it
The government's refusal to implement an insurance scheme for mass events this year means the festival industry is looking at a "lost summer", according to a Commons report.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-los ... s-12319319
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Re: **CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

Post by Red dot » Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:20 pm

I have just had my refund, £45 instead of £50.

When I enquired why, it is because they are "unable" to give the booking fee back, as stated in the booking conditions.

So I have paid £5 for nothing, which although of minor consequence, feels wrong.

I won't bother with Flying Legends again. I would rather stand outside to take photos

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Re: **CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

Post by Nighthawke » Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:22 pm

You accepted the conditions at the point of purchase - whether you read them or not is irrelevant.

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Re: **CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

Post by James Cutting » Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:37 pm

Red dot wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:20 pm

I won't bother with Flying Legends again. I would rather stand outside to take photos

Andy
Why did you bother paying £50 in the first point?? Your own fault for not reading about the booking fee, which is nearly the standard at every event that charges a booking fee :Oops:
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Re: **CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

Post by Sparts99 » Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:10 pm

algr61 wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 4:36 pm
Easy way out rather than organise all the crowd controls etc etc. It is an open air show so no excuse for it to not go ahead

Alan
Have you ever organised a large outdoor event? I run a festival every summer that gets 2-3,000 punters. Right now for this year we still can't give a definite 'go/no go' decision for August, we are reaching the point of hefty finanacial outlay in order to secure services like first aid, security, event insurance, toilets, PA systems, fencing, performers and 101 other things. With the uncertainty that is creeping in about the decision for 21st june onwards at some point you are forced into that decision, Flying Legends are probably at that point. Get it wrong and the whole thing collapses for good, would you take that gamble? If it was feasible to decide now to go ahead of course they would.
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Re: **CANCELLED** New Flying Legends @ Sywell July 2021

Post by Doughnut » Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:30 pm

Agreed the financial risk for the un-recoverable expenses is too great for the Flying Legends team to take.
But the only reason there is a risk in the first place is the non committed attitude of the British Government, and the Governments refusal to pay compensation if event have to be cancelled.
What angers me is that small music festival, village fetes and local carnivals are being cancelled yet the biggest risk to health such as the major sporting events are being allowed to continue.
It is as if the Government feel its is OK to oh fudge about with peoples lives and minority interest groups but they dare not risk the back lash from cancelling the likes of the European football championships.
An event the size of the Football involving 24 teams playing in eleven countries all ending up in Wembley. God help us.

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