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Royal International Air Tattoo 2015
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:28 pm
by AeroResource
Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2015
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:11 am
by TomG
Perhaps a hastily compiled piece? Spitfire P3750? No mention of Swedish Gripen but did mention Czech & Hungarian. Japan Maritime Defines Force! Northop SF-5? A decent article let down by poor proofing folks.
Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2015
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:20 am
by AeroResource
TomG wrote:Perhaps a hastily compiled piece? Spitfire P3750? No mention of Swedish Gripen but did mention Czech & Hungarian. Japan Maritime Defines Force! Northop SF-5? A decent article let down by poor proofing folks.
Thanks for the feedback Tom, duly amended.
Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2015
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:11 pm
by nellis6
I'm also not sure where all this VX-51 stuff is coming from. I've seen it mentioned elsewhere and as far as I know the Japanese do not use such terminology. I stand to be corrected if that is the case, but technically it is from 51 Kokutai, which is part of 31 Kokugun. Until reports relating to the two aircraft at RIAT I have never seen VX-51 mentioned.
Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2015
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:23 pm
by Mark K
nellis6 wrote:I'm also not sure where all this VX-51 stuff is coming from. I've seen it mentioned elsewhere and as far as I know the Japanese do not use such terminology. I stand to be corrected if that is the case, but technically it is from 51 Kokutai, which is part of 31 Kokugun. Until reports relating to the two aircraft at RIAT I have never seen VX-51 mentioned.
The unit marking of the 51st is a combination of the orange "V" and the yellow "X", so this can be read "VX" together. The 51st Kokutai is a test unit and a test unit is designated as "VX-" in the U.S.Navy.
Page 42 of Naval Helicopter Association magazine Rotor Review (Issue 104) talks about 51 Kokutai as VX-51:
http://issuu.com/rotorrev/docs/rr104_digital/44
So I think VX-51 is not so much a Japanese designation but more of a US Navy/Rest of the world one.
Mark
Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2015
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:17 pm
by nellis6
Mark K wrote:nellis6 wrote:I'm also not sure where all this VX-51 stuff is coming from. I've seen it mentioned elsewhere and as far as I know the Japanese do not use such terminology. I stand to be corrected if that is the case, but technically it is from 51 Kokutai, which is part of 31 Kokugun. Until reports relating to the two aircraft at RIAT I have never seen VX-51 mentioned.
The unit marking of the 51st is a combination of the orange "V" and the yellow "X", so this can be read "VX" together. The 51st Kokutai is a test unit and a test unit is designated as "VX-" in the U.S.Navy.
Page 42 of Naval Helicopter Association magazine Rotor Review (Issue 104) talks about 51 Kokutai as VX-51:
http://issuu.com/rotorrev/docs/rr104_digital/44
So I think VX-51 is not so much a Japanese designation but more of a US Navy/Rest of the world one.
Mark
Appreciate the source Mark, just doesn't seem or sound right saying it's from VX-51 rather than 51 Kokutai
Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2015
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:33 pm
by TomG
In all of the pre-show planning with the unit they consistently referred to themselves as VX-51. Patches worn by the crew were marked "AIRDEVRON FIVE ONE".
Tom