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Re: CWU Action

Post by raptor9 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:42 am

Why???. Give us some reasons, and, as you are so critical of nearly everybody, give us some intelligent solutions as to how you would cure the economy instead of your usual supercilious remarks!!.

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Re: CWU Action

Post by Nighthawke » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:05 am

What is CWU, colourful wigs union, I could go on...

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Re: CWU Action

Post by iainpeden » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:32 am

Cunning Wallabies United?

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Re: CWU Action

Post by Fighterfoto » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:35 am

I certainly shall. Well, I will once you deliver my honeymoon photos and refund all the money stolen from the birthday cards sent by grand parents and relatives to my kids.
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Re: CWU Action

Post by Nighthawke » Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:11 am

Now that I know its The Communication Workers Union, what did you want me to do? I work full time, can't afford to give money away, and don't support strike action. I am more concerned about getting my own pay rise settled (private company).

Anyway what about all the other workers who could do with a pay rise? After all we live in an inclusive society these days.

Sensible and constructive answers only please, although I won't hold my breath based on other posts.

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Re: CWU Action

Post by Rob666 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:27 pm

Why support any unions, they seem to blinked to what is going in the world and want their members to have more pay to combat the rising costs we are incurring. I work in the private sector, trust me we won't/ain't getting any such increase.

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Re: CWU Action

Post by NorvilleRogers » Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:59 pm

LotusDriver10 wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:25 am
Please support this Union all you can.
Communist Worshippers Union?.. guess that's fits with your pro Russian stance.. explains a lot.

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Re: CWU Action

Post by TealRain » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:55 pm

:lol:

As an aside to my howls of laughter at this comment I thought I'd better explain my position. I've never been a member of a union and I never want to be. Even at Uni for undergrad or postgrad the NUS did not interest me one bit! It probably didn't make me popular with 'that' particular crowd but so be it. The only one making decisions and speaking for me is me.
LotusDriver10 wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:25 am
Please support this Union all you can.
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Re: CWU Action

Post by CookipediaChef » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:05 pm

Why???. Give us some reasons, and, as you are so critical of nearly everybody, give us some intelligent solutions as to how you would cure the economy instead of your usual supercilious remarks!!.
Hear, hear. :clap: :clap: His noise is only ever self-induced clickbait. Add him (her?) to your Foes list and all will become nice and quiet again. :halo:
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Re: CWU Action

Post by Nighthawke » Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:37 pm

LotusDriver10 wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:41 pm
, I was only posting about unions in general not just the CWU one..
No, your header and post specifically referred to the CWU - without expanding on what that is. Better stick to the forum's main purpose rather than trying to get political and get everyone's back up!

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Re: CWU Action

Post by Nighthawke » Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:44 pm

Yes but you seem to be better at it than most. Perhaps you should be an MP?

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Re: CWU Action

Post by raptor9 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:02 pm

Lotus Please refrain from posting anything about politics or the Ukraine. It's not these two things that are getting peoples back's up. It's you!!.

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Re: CWU Action

Post by Pune » Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:32 pm

I for one have been a union member for over 40 years, initially with The Fire Brigades Union (FBU) and latterly with Bectu, they are undoubtably a great asset to workers, many many benefits and support, BUT, if you don't want to join you don't have to, your choice entirely.
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If you can keep your head whilst all around are losing theirs, you have probably completely misread the situation!!

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Re: CWU Action

Post by Nighthawke » Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:39 pm

Most of the well-constructed arguments have been just that - an attempt to debate and not insulting. Nothing wrong with intelligent discussion is there?

If you were a Russian then you could possibly expect to be "shot down"!

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Re: CWU Action

Post by Nighthawke » Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:32 pm

Yes, I should have qualified my comnent with "pro-Putin".

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Re: CWU Action

Post by Pune » Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:29 am

It's interesting to read some of the comments in this thread, I don't think a lot of folk realise just how much good unions have done for the working population of this country, union members or not,
The 8 hour working day, retirement age, maternity leave, equality, Health & safety, paid holidays, employment contracts to name but a few.
If you can keep your head whilst all around are losing theirs, you have probably completely misread the situation!!

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Re: CWU Action

Post by iainpeden » Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:55 am

Pune wrote:
Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:29 am
It's interesting to read some of the comments in this thread, I don't think a lot of folk realise just how much good unions have done for the working population of this country, union members or not,
The 8 hour working day, retirement age, maternity leave, equality, Health & safety, paid holidays, employment contracts to name but a few.
Totally agree but the union bigwigs are also more than capable of playing politics.
I was chatting to an acquaintance recently who's a post man and asked for his views on the CWU action. He said that the PO leaders are saying that the company is losing £1m a day but made over £750m profit last year; he also said the head of the organisation had awarded himself £600,000 worth of shares. I'm happy to accept that good leaders need commercial levels of remuneration and that shareholders do make money available for investment and need a level of reward; I also understand that the PO needs modernisation due to increased competition, more parcel services and fewer letter deliveries but to have a profitable and sustainable business you also need good, motivated staff.

I'm also very unconvinced by the railway unions actions at present but that's another discussion.

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Re: CWU Action

Post by Pune » Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:04 pm

iainpeden wrote:
Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:55 am
Pune wrote:
Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:29 am
It's interesting to read some of the comments in this thread, I don't think a lot of folk realise just how much good unions have done for the working population of this country, union members or not,
The 8 hour working day, retirement age, maternity leave, equality, Health & safety, paid holidays, employment contracts to name but a few.
Totally agree but the union bigwigs are also more than capable of playing politics.
I was chatting to an acquaintance recently who's a post man and asked for his views on the CWU action. He said that the PO leaders are saying that the company is losing £1m a day but made over £750m profit last year; he also said the head of the organisation had awarded himself £600,000 worth of shares. I'm happy to accept that good leaders need commercial levels of remuneration and that shareholders do make money available for investment and need a level of reward; I also understand that the PO needs modernisation due to increased competition, more parcel services and fewer letter deliveries but to have a profitable and sustainable business you also need good, motivated staff.

I'm also very unconvinced by the railway unions actions at present but that's another discussion.
Any strike action is a last resort, I was on strike in '77/78 for 11 weeks when in Fire Service, it's not pleasant, but needs must, and we eventually got a fair settlement.
If you can keep your head whilst all around are losing theirs, you have probably completely misread the situation!!

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Re: CWU Action

Post by iainpeden » Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:53 pm

I took industrial action in the 1980s and again in 2010 when the NAHT boycotted KS2 SATs. It is a very difficult decision.

I think your last two words are the most important - "fair settlement."

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Re: CWU Action

Post by Pune » Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:07 pm

iainpeden wrote:
Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:53 pm
I took industrial action in the 1980s and again in 2010 when the NAHT boycotted KS2 SATs. It is a very difficult decision.

I think your last two words are the most important - "fair settlement."
Absolutely, it must be fair for all involved, I sometimes get the feeling that some folk have no idea what being a member of a union involves, but again, that's another story..
If you can keep your head whilst all around are losing theirs, you have probably completely misread the situation!!

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