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Re: KC-46A

Post by JAWS » Mon Sep 23, 2024 4:06 pm

STN RAMP RAT wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:53 pm
I was at Everett and Boeing Field yesterday and will post a log of KC46’s later today. There was only one KC46 seen on the military ramp at BFI and as expected it was unmarked, can anyone confirm that 21-46096 is currently the only production one at Boeing Field.
Yes, that is correct.
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Re: KC-46A

Post by STN RAMP RAT » Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:14 pm

As promised a log from Paine Field on Sunday 22nd September around midday, obviously any help with the gaps would be appreciated.

13 KC46's seen and fortunatly only 3 with absoloutly no identification marking on them

Area outside the paint hangar
LN1065 marked as 16001
LN???? marked as N4xxxx
LN???? unmarked

Test Ramp
LN???? marked as N8297V
LN???? marked as N8296V
LN???? unmarked
LN???? marked as N8295V

Outside the Everett Modification Centre
LN1339 unmarked (line number on the nosewheel door on paper)
LN 1333 marked as 54-3615 JSDF
LN1092 unmarked (registration N884BA scrubbed out but visiable)
LN1069 marked as N462KC
LN1091 unmarked (line number on the nosewheel door on paper)
LN???? unmarked

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Re: KC-46A

Post by Evergreen 44 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:23 am

Good Morning,
I have N462KC as a/c #2 11-46002
Was wfu and outside North hangar Boeing Field l/n 06/22
Best regards,
Paul

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Re: KC-46A

Post by sschofield » Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:36 am

STN RAMP RAT wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:14 pm
As promised a log from Paine Field on Sunday 22nd September around midday, obviously any help with the gaps would be appreciated.

13 KC46's seen and fortunatly only 3 with absoloutly no identification marking on them

Area outside the paint hangar
LN1065 marked as 16001
LN???? marked as N4xxxx
LN???? unmarked

Test Ramp
LN???? marked as N8297V
LN???? marked as N8296V
LN???? unmarked
LN???? marked as N8295V

Outside the Everett Modification Centre
LN1339 unmarked (line number on the nosewheel door on paper)
LN 1333 marked as 54-3615 JSDF
LN1092 unmarked (registration N884BA scrubbed out but visiable)
LN1069 marked as N462KC
LN1091 unmarked (line number on the nosewheel door on paper)
LN???? unmarked
Nick,

I can help with the following;

LN1065 is indeed 11-46001
N8297V will become 21-46088
N8296V will become 22-46099
N8295V not sure. Last used on 20-46083, but that was delivered to Travis in December 2023 so there should be a newer frame with that ID now
LN1339 will become 22-46106
LN1092/N884BA will become 19-46006
LN1069/N462KC will become 11-46004 (Paul, as far as I am aware, 11-46002 is/was N464KC)
LN1091 will become 19-46005

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Re: KC-46A

Post by JAWS » Sat Sep 28, 2024 12:19 pm

Evergreen 44 wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:23 am
Good Morning,
I have N462KC as a/c #2 11-46002
Was wfu and outside North hangar Boeing Field l/n 06/22
Best regards,
Paul
Paul,

The 4 EMD Frames are as follows, for some reason a/c #2 became N464KC and a/c #4 became N462KC

VH001 N461FT(11-46001) 41273/1065 KPAE
VH002 N464KC(11-46002) 41274/1066 KBFI
VH003 N463FT(11-46003) 34054/1067 KPAE
VH004 N462KC(11-46004) 41275/1069 KPAE

I believe only VH001 carries the serial as 16001

N462KC was flown from KMWH/Moses Lake, WA to KPAE/Paine Field, WA on 03 June 2024, not sure when it was flown to KMWH from KBFI though.
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Re: KC-46A

Post by JAWS » Sat Sep 28, 2024 12:21 pm

STN RAMP RAT wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:14 pm
As promised a log from Paine Field on Sunday 22nd September around midday, obviously any help with the gaps would be appreciated.

13 KC46's seen and fortunatly only 3 with absoloutly no identification marking on them

Area outside the paint hangar
LN1065 marked as 16001 - 11-46001
LN???? marked as N4xxxx
LN???? unmarked

Test Ramp
LN???? marked as N8297V - 22-46100
LN???? marked as N8296V - 22-46099
LN???? unmarked
LN???? marked as N8295V - 21-46098

Outside the Everett Modification Centre
LN1339 unmarked (line number on the nosewheel door on paper) - 22-46106
LN 1333 marked as 54-3615 JSDF
LN1092 unmarked (registration N884BA scrubbed out but visiable)
LN1069 marked as N462KC
LN1091 unmarked (line number on the nosewheel door on paper) - N842BA
LN???? unmarked
Last edited by JAWS on Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:04 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: KC-46A

Post by JAWS » Sat Sep 28, 2024 12:26 pm

sschofield wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:36 am
STN RAMP RAT wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:14 pm
Nick,

I can help with the following;

LN1065 is indeed 11-46001
N8297V will become 21-46088 - Was delivered to McGuire, NJ 31 May 2024
N8296V will become 22-46099
N8295V not sure. Last used on 20-46083, but that was delivered to Travis in December 2023 so there should be a newer frame with that ID now
LN1339 will become 22-46106
LN1092/N884BA will become 19-46006
LN1069/N462KC will become 11-46004 (Paul, as far as I am aware, 11-46002 is/was N464KC)
LN1091 will become 19-46005
Regards Steve............

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Chuck Adams, Buffalo Airlines.

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Re: KC-46A

Post by sschofield » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:18 pm

JAWS wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2024 12:26 pm
sschofield wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:36 am
STN RAMP RAT wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:14 pm
Nick,

I can help with the following;

LN1065 is indeed 11-46001
N8297V will become 21-46088 - Was delivered to McGuire, NJ 31 May 2024
N8296V will become 22-46099
N8295V not sure. Last used on 20-46083, but that was delivered to Travis in December 2023 so there should be a newer frame with that ID now
LN1339 will become 22-46106
LN1092/N884BA will become 19-46006
LN1069/N462KC will become 11-46004 (Paul, as far as I am aware, 11-46002 is/was N464KC)
LN1091 will become 19-46005
Thanks Steve, I even put the update in "MAM" that 21-46088 was delivered to McGuire, so I don't know where I got that from! Forgot that they tend to re-use test regs!

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Re: KC-46A

Post by STN RAMP RAT » Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:13 pm

thanks all for the input

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Re: KC-46A

Post by JAWS » Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:39 am

GUCCI09 21-46096 KC-46A AE63CC Departed KBFI/Boeing Field, WA on 04 October 2024 on delivery to 60/349 AMW at KSUU/Travis AFB, CA
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Re: KC-46A

Post by Malcolm » Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:07 pm

Has anyone got a list of which KC-46's have (and have not) got tail numbers applied?

Reason I ask is that I was at Travis last week, and I *think* I read off 078, 081, 083 and 084. They were extremely difficult to read due to heat haze (had been 102 degrees during the day), and I was ready to bin those as I wasn't really sure enough on the polling. There were two more on the deck unmarked.

Then, later in the day 084 "ZEPHYR32" and 085 "ZEPHYR30" showed on ADSB as airborne. And the following day 083 showed as "ZEPHYR42". I don't actually need 078 or 081, so don't mind binning those, but would be nice to pot 083, 084 and possibly 085. However, that assumes 085 was one of the unmarked ones on the ramp, and that 083 and 084 are marked and I read them off correctly.

So is it correct that those delivered up to 084 were marked, and 085 and after were not? Or is it not that simple?

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Re: KC-46A

Post by JAWS » Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:46 am

BOE100 N8297V/22-46100 AE63D0 Made it's second flight yesterday 22 November from KPAE/Paine Field, WA

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae63d0

Still showing incorrectly on ADSB-x and FR24 as 64-13265 T-38A
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Re: KC-46A

Post by JAWS » Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:13 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:07 pm
Has anyone got a list of which KC-46's have (and have not) got tail numbers applied?

Reason I ask is that I was at Travis last week, and I *think* I read off 078, 081, 083 and 084. They were extremely difficult to read due to heat haze (had been 102 degrees during the day), and I was ready to bin those as I wasn't really sure enough on the polling. There were two more on the deck unmarked.

Then, later in the day 084 "ZEPHYR32" and 085 "ZEPHYR30" showed on ADSB as airborne. And the following day 083 showed as "ZEPHYR42". I don't actually need 078 or 081, so don't mind binning those, but would be nice to pot 083, 084 and possibly 085. However, that assumes 085 was one of the unmarked ones on the ramp, and that 083 and 084 are marked and I read them off correctly.

So is it correct that those delivered up to 084 were marked, and 085 and after were not? Or is it not that simple?
Malcolm, I believe it is that simple.

20-46083 was delivered to KSUU/Travis marked and still was in August 2024 https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/11451747

21-46084 was delivered KSUU/Travis marked and still was in April 2024 https://www.airfighters.com/photo/28516 ... F/21-46084

21-46085 was delivered KSUU/Travis unmarked

21-46086 was delivered KSUU/Travis unmarked
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Chuck Adams, Buffalo Airlines.

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Re: KC-46A

Post by raameagle » Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:09 pm

46085 was the first to be delivered in accordance with the (absolutely bonkers) decision to have the tail unmarked! 086 onwards are the same.
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Re: KC-46A

Post by Ken Cloke » Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:53 pm

I read 078, 081 and 083 on 17 September. Three others on the ramp were unmarked. As a bonus there were 3 unmarked KC135Rs too!

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Re: KC-46A

Post by JAWS » Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:26 pm

BOE097 21-46097 KC46A AE63CD Airborne from KPAE/Paine Field, WA

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae63cd
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Re: KC-46A

Post by JAWS » Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:11 pm

BOE098 21-46098 KC46A AE63CE Airborne from KPAE/Paine Field, WA

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae63ce
Regards Steve............

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Chuck Adams, Buffalo Airlines.

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Re: KC-46A

Post by Mr P » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:43 am

For those who may be interested, the msn tie-up for the KC46 Boeing is showing as 'delivered' in December 2024: VH097 21-46097 KC46A msn 41917 Line No. 1314 23/12/2024

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Re: KC-46A

Post by sschofield » Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:56 pm

Mr P wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:43 am
For those who may be interested, the msn tie-up for the KC46 Boeing is showing as 'delivered' in December 2024: VH097 21-46097 KC46A msn 41917 Line No. 1314 23/12/2024
Do we know to "where" it was delivered? Another for Travis?

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Re: KC-46A

Post by Mr P » Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:35 pm

Boeing records a KC46 as "delivered" when it is ferried from PAE to BFI. It is at this point I beleive the civil (test) registration is removed. In this case, it was N5514X. In the case of the KC46's, there is unfortunately a difference in the meaning of delivered. Boeing uses the term when the KC46 is ferried to BFI, whilst we would use 'delivered' when the aircraft is ferried to a miltary base. I hope this helps.

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