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Re: F1 2024

Post by cat1 » Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:35 pm

Maybe a few years out would do a world of good to get their s*%t in order....

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Re: F1 2024

Post by James Cutting » Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:49 pm

Can't get any sponsor money if you're not running then you're only making your demise worse.

Maybe if teams stopped hiring Pay Drivers and went off talent, and those that could drive the cars and not crash them regularly (Sargeant) then they wouldn't have to miss races.

Also - there's nothing much out there about them missing any races.
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Re: F1 2024

Post by Pune » Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:48 pm

It's all down to the Inventory of spares at Williams.

"The problem for Williams is that at this point in the season, F1 teams are not carrying the levels of inventory for replacement parts that they do earlier in the year. Reports from Grove now suggest the headache for Williams is not cash related but a simple matter of time required to produce the required components for both cars to take to the circuit in Vegas.

There is also the cost cap to consider given Williams have their three drivers from the season in the top 9 of the F1 destructor league. Accumulated damage from the three is estimated to be around $9,466,750. Even Sergio Perez who is top of the table in crash damage has racked up only $4,861,000.

James Vowles reveals the damage is beyond cash allocations and even potential cost cap breaches and is merely a matter of logistics as the team struggles to replicate the replacement parts required."

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Re: F1 2024

Post by C24 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:25 pm

Sky F1 show at 1300hrs onwards

Croft should spend more time improving his skill at commentary and give up his comedy routine.

Just my humble opinion Quite ironic really, sky sales team have just called to ask me to add more to their coffers
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Re: F1 2024

Post by Skywatcher » Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:13 pm

Lewis fastest in free practice.
I hope this continues tomorrow?
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Re: F1 2024

Post by 2e1var » Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:53 am

Wow, Lewis dropped the ball there.
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Re: F1 2024

Post by seven » Sat Nov 23, 2024 10:46 am

Quickly turning into a Perez...

Also had a thought, maybe Williams should have picked up Ricciardo to replace Sargeant. Certainly would have saved a few quid in repair bills.
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Re: F1 2024

Post by 2e1var » Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:26 am

Great result for Mercedes and great that Max wasn't on the podium to spoil it. Cold weather helped. Fingers crossed Qarar and Abu Dhabi have a cold snap.
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Re: F1 2024

Post by Dean.E » Sun Nov 24, 2024 9:56 am

I lost count how may fastest laps Hamilton did,congrats to George and a much deserved driver of the day to Lewis.
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Re: F1 2024

Post by C24 » Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:17 pm

Williams should open a car repair shop for pensioners. Spending the William’s funds on teenagers seems a road to disaster to me.
Long laps are good for interesting racing. Making cars narrower, 6” or so, would assist overtaking without needing to widen the various street circuits.
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Re: F1 2024

Post by Skywatcher » Sun Nov 24, 2024 2:42 pm

Another brilliant drive for Lewis (hope this form continues into next year ) and congratulations to George Russel another great win and starting to show team leader ability going forward to next year ,when one would imagine Russel being the de facto team leader can’t see young Kimi being number one already although given the amount of praise he is getting it is not impossible but highly unlikely.
Also congratulations to Red Bull and Max ,they where the toast of the class right from the get go even with all the off track goings on ( having read what has recently come to light the toast of the field bit seems a bit of a contradiction to what has been reported ( seem like they have let themselves down in the comments reported ) yes they had the fastest and best set up car all year but it now sits a bit uncomfortably with me now …)
As a life long racing / motorsport fan I felt Las Vegas GP was more of entertainment than racing ,as long straight = slip stream city so going to get loads of DRS overtake and that’s what we got … long straights and some not exactly challenging turns …
I felt it was all a bit too artificially manufactured then driver ability ( Lewis getting from 10th to 2nd a bit different as he was starting out of position at the start and against mostly cars you should think he pass easily (relatively) anyhow other than maybe Ferrari or McLaren but mostly easy pass the Alpine and Hass ..
I’m not a huge fan of the Las Vegas track as you may be able to tell ,I’d much rather a Spa or a Monza over the Las Vegas GP …
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Re: F1 2024

Post by James Cutting » Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:41 pm

C24 wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:17 pm
Williams should open a car repair shop for pensioners. Spending the William’s funds on teenagers seems a road to disaster to me.
Long laps are good for interesting racing. Making cars narrower, 6” or so, would assist overtaking without needing to widen the various street circuits.
It’s just as well they don’t hire teenagers then, isn’t it. And I’m not sure what good pensioners would do… :lol:
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Re: F1 2024

Post by Hurn » Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:06 pm

Dean.E wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 9:56 am
I lost count how may fastest laps Hamilton did,congrats to George and a much deserved driver of the day to Lewis.
I might have missed someone,nah can’t think :P
2e1var wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:26 am
Great result for Mercedes and great that Max wasn't on the podium to spoil it.

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Re: F1 2024

Post by raptor9 » Sun Nov 24, 2024 9:53 pm

What a difference in Lewis's car compared to the previous race in Sao Paulo!!. Pity he blew Q.3 tho'.

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Re: F1 2024

Post by James Cutting » Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:07 am

Cold temps worked to Mercedes favour. Lewis had a cracking race he’s apparently “quickly turning into a Perez”… :Oops: :lol: Least Hamilton can drag his car up through the field…
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Re: F1 2024

Post by seven » Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:07 am

And a stunning job he's done of that the rest of the season... Or did you miss that bit?
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Re: F1 2024

Post by James Cutting » Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:16 am

seven wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2024 10:46 am
Quickly turning into a Perez...

Also had a thought, maybe Williams should have picked up Ricciardo to replace Sargeant. Certainly would have saved a few quid in repair bills.
Nope!
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Re: F1 2024

Post by raptor9 » Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:07 am

Anyone who thinks Lewis has lost his skill or motivation is not watching what we are watching!!!. And he does it without cheating!!.

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Re: F1 2024

Post by James Cutting » Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:35 am

That's why Seven's comment about him turning in to Perez makes no sense... :S
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Re: F1 2024

Post by seven » Mon Nov 25, 2024 12:25 pm

James Cutting wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:16 am
Nope!
You clearly misunderstood what I wrote.
James Cutting wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:35 am
That's why Seven's comment about him turning in to Perez makes no sense to me... :S
Fixed that for you.
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Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:07 am
Anyone who thinks Lewis has lost his skill or motivation is not watching what we are watching!!!.
Did you watch every single session this year?
Unfortunately the evidence does not support that. Fact of the matter is, he's been cream crackered in qualifying this year by Russell, who is very good, but is not a top tier driver.
Whilst Merc seem to turn up with a different car to each race(sometimes each day of the event!), you can't claim that pre-2021 Hamilton wouldn't have done a better job.
Would a younger Hamilton have been booted out on Q3(!!)/(Q2) in this car as many times this year? No.
Would a younger Hamilton have binned it on lap 5 in Austin? Probably not.

As for motivation, did you miss his post race radio chatter from Brazil, which has since been confirmed that he was considering leaving Merc early?
The Hamilton of old used to come alive towards the end of a season. That hasn't been apparent since 2021 at the latest.

No one (here especially) wants to see Hamilton succeed more than I do. And I'd be thrilled to see him excel at Ferrari next year. But I am not expecting it (assuming they don't give him a tractor).
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