New Milscanners

[Tronk 11]

Oh i forgot to add. If you or anyone set up a website and people took all the frequencies and information off your site to make a book or guide, or make their own website, you'd be a little upset. Protecting the info isn't a bad idea, and if you do it then again you can be removed from the group.
Reality is your are betraying a group of enthusiasts who put time and effort to line your pockets or make a web site better.
Rant over.

[airfixpilot]

Final say on the matter:
I was put out that when trying to reset My username and password on Milscanners, that I was told that you now need to register to a forum on Yahoo. The old milscanners encouraged involvement by asking to contribute, by asking for dates new frequencies noted, or last noted. New frequencies heard ect ect. Also this included new callsign which were heard. I would rather kept the old milscanners, were you were asked, Not forced to give information, with a time scale. Some people dont like forums to be formal, the way this is, and would rather have a free flowing type, were info is freely given.

I accept that Admin staff of milscanners work their butts off to keep up to date with the frequencies and I am grateful for this. Having put time and effort in for the members. If milscanner members want a forum to discuss frequencies and other related subjects, that fine by me, but I myself just want frequency information.

It stands to reason that frequencies on milscanners are used on scanning radios, and by human nature are shared from one to another, either at airshows, spotting at the fence, or via the web/email to friends. eg. If a friend asked you for Swanwick mil ICF frequency, I bet you would not say I AM NOT TELLING YOU. I know someone out there on the WWW, know ALL the ASACS/TADs, which in all fairness.


For this I would be willing to pay a nominal fee, per year or month for the upkeep of the site.

Now we all know that owning a scanner is LEGAL, its what you tune into is the problem. Please be careful of who you tell or what you write. We are all been naughty in a way.
Although the police take a dim view or blind eye for using a scanner, at airshows they don't bother. Here is Ofcom quick guide for owning a scanner and what you are allowed to do/Common questions answered:

COMMON QUESTIONS

1)Question:Am I breaking the law by owning a scanner?
Answer: No, but you should not use one to listen to frequencies other than general
reception transmissions.

2)Question: Can I get a licence to use a scanner?
Answer: No, there is no scanner licence. You do not need one for a scanner.

3)Question: Could I get authority to listen to emergency service transmissions, for example? I
am interested and might be able to help.
Answer: No, authority is reserved for people acting under statutory authority. If you wish to
listen in to messages, you should obtain the permission of the person sending them.

4)Question: Isn't it all right to listen as long as I don't pass on what I hear?
Answer: No, using radio equipment to listen in is an offence, regardless of whether the
information is passed on.

5)Question: Isn't this all a bit heavy?
Answer: No. No-one likes their private or business conversations to be listened to.
Parliament has passed these laws to protect the privacy of radio users.

I think question FOUR, relates to transmitting information heard, by ANY means, websites paper or any other way.

[HunterF6]

The basic database should be viewable on the www.milscanners.org website. Comprehensive ones are these days viewable to members who have been a member for over 30 days and contributed. Quite simply it's a give and take scenario. The comprehensive databases were taken down and restricted to members of the email group due to the contents being used elsewhere on multiple occasions, this was quite blatant too. It could be considered a compliment that the content was copied, but a simple way would have been for other sites to point a link in the direction of the databases instead of publishing as their own work.

The member who got removed yesterday was only the 2nd I have had to remove in probably 10+ years, how many have been removed from here in that time??!! The quotes posted on here appear that those quotes were all by one person when in fact they were contents of 3 different emails by different people.

Lastly my colleague who maintains the website and databases does so in his own time, at own expense. I dare say if for example we chose to make it viewable for a small fee then that would make more waves! At the end of the day as we see so many times a small few spoil it for the majority. As it stands the databases will remain as they are.

Hope that clears up any queries!

[nescafe37]

The basic database should be viewable on the www.milscanners.org website. Comprehensive ones are these days viewable to members who have been a member for over 30 days and contributed. Quite simply it's a give and take scenario. The comprehensive databases were taken down and restricted to members of the email group due to the contents being used elsewhere on multiple occasions, this was quite blatant too. It could be considered a compliment that the content was copied, but a simple way would have been for other sites to point a link in the direction of the databases instead of publishing as their own work.

The member who got removed yesterday was only the 2nd I have had to remove in probably 10+ years, how many have been removed from here in that time??!! The quotes posted on here appear that those quotes were all by one person when in fact they were contents of 3 different emails by different people.

Lastly my colleague who maintains the website and databases does so in his own time, at own expense. I dare say if for example we chose to make it viewable for a small fee then that would make more waves! At the end of the day as we see so many times a small few spoil it for the majority. As it stands the databases will remain as they are.

Hope that clears up any queries!

make it a subscription and i would pay no problem. I totally understand the situation as regards the info being used and im sure i know who and what program/took it was. I contributed to milscanners directly through the website on a regular basis( if i found something that needed updating or you never had) but i will not be joining another group... I am a member of so many different groups and forums already and i dont need more.. Thanks for all the info you have given over the years.
Chris

[Tronk 11]

Nicely said Andy.

[HunterF6]

Chris, although we are an email group, you c an still select daily digest (10 mails in 1) or no mail, in effect reading on the web just as you would for this forum.

[nescafe37]

Chris, although we are an email group, you c an still select daily digest (10 mails in 1) or no mail, in effect reading on the web just as you would for this forum.

Thanks for the info bud but i will just do with out for now to be honest..

[reach1]

It’s fine for some people to contribute a post or posts each month and that’s fine ,But I only have my radio on a few times in a month due to other commitments and don’t always pick anything new up in the way of new frequencies ,but never mind anything i do get in future I will keep to myself .

[Tronk 11]

Reach 1.
I dont get many new freqs, maybe 8 a year, thats not the point. Your location is the point. I post local freqs to me that i hear. This gives others an idea what to scan when the visit, or go looking at aircraft. Just the same as we all check out fairford and associated freqs before we visit fairford, mildenhall, lakenheath etc.
Post whats local, and when its used. Working together give a better up to date database.

[reach1]

That’s fine but I live in Coventry and my local airports are Coventry and Birmingham and there’s very little military traffic there,and I don’t think milscanners want them
Brize is 45 miles away and Lakenheath and Mildenhall over 90 and Coningsby the same And I don’t get there often just 3 times last year one visit to each which is why I used milscannners for there air/air and tad etc, to update any freqs before I go there.

[reach1]

Since my last post I’ve found out my friend who is still member of milscanners but never posts any frequencies still has access to the full range of frequencies and has not been removed like many of us (great if your a friend of the owner.)

[airfixpilot]

Due to the nature of Military airband listening, and the amount of chatter, compared to civil VHF airband, it is low and a bit more difficult to get results. If you turn on a civil frequency, eg 126.78 (North sea) London control. you are inundated with transmissions. Were as if you put 259.6 (North East ICF) Swanwick military, you have to wait a while to hear anything.

If you do get to a base, then yes you do get lots of transmissions, like approach and tower.

Having the basic frequencies for your area is a good staring point, like Swanwick Military ( with the area which is near your location), ICF (Initial Contact Frequency) . Moving on from this it gets a bit murky, and a bit hit and miss, with Air to Air, Air Refuelling and ASACS/TADs. This is were Milscanners came in, as it gave these type of tactical frequencies. Now this ok but as it is a hit and miss, you waste a lot of memories on your scanner, and hear nothing, for day or months. What a waste. I feel this type of information is/was worthless.
The best chance of a hit on these type of frequencies, are Air to Air. I do pick up sometimes Coningsby Typhoons on Air/Air over the North Sea, as I live near the Humber. If you look on FC, at the bases, it will give you the Air/Air along with Approaches, PAR and other relevant frequencies for the base.

To cut a long story short, I do not think Milscanners is needed, and I am saying that after using the site for years. I now only have My local Swanwick Military for My area (North,Northeast & East) in the scanner and My local bases (Coningsby, Waddington and Cranwell) for when I visit. I only have a few Air to Air frequencies in the scanner.

Any comments welcome

[bizfreeq]

If you don't think Milscanners is needed why are you on here moaning about how it's membership is run?