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Post by AndrewBarclay » Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:51 am

With reference to the incident at Brize Norton. Am l right in thinking it couldn’t have happened at a USAF.Base Because they have notices which state that unauthorised entry may be met by lethal force, plus most bases have armed guards on 24 hour duty.

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Post by RunAndBreak » Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:55 am

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Post by xkekeith » Fri Jul 04, 2025 11:24 am

The issue is having a security guard (or guards) who is awake and alert at 4am...... to enforce what ever restrictions you have in place !
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Post by dazzler5440 » Fri Jul 04, 2025 12:31 pm

xkekeith wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 11:24 am
The issue is having a security guard (or guards) who is awake and alert at 4am...... to enforce what ever restrictions you have in place !
The issue is having 5ft fences and only 4 guards to patrol the 8 miles of said fence. Todays article in the Telegraph below highlights that fact.

I work in the security flight at Marham and it’s a problem we’ve highlighted for years. The guards at Brize weren’t sleeping I do know.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/0 ... _reg_first

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Post by Snoop 95 » Fri Jul 04, 2025 3:59 pm

It was interesting to note that when the RAF were in residence at Wattisham the perimeter fence was wooden post and rail about 4 feet high. When the Army moved in a new fence probably 8 feet high with razor wire was quickly installed throughout.

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Post by Blackcat1 » Fri Jul 04, 2025 4:02 pm

Snoop 95 wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 3:59 pm
It was interesting to note that when the RAF were in residence at Wattisham the perimeter fence was wooden post and rail about 4 feet high. When the Army moved in a new fence probably 8 feet high with razor wire was quickly installed throughout.
I remember my first visit to Wattisham, I was about 8 years old and when I had my photo taken next to the Lightning gate guard, security was prompt and told us off 😂 to be fair i was dangerous looking at 8 😂 fair play to them they let us take the photo 😂
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Post by dazzler5440 » Fri Jul 04, 2025 5:59 pm

Snoop 95 wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 3:59 pm
It was interesting to note that when the RAF were in residence at Wattisham the perimeter fence was wooden post and rail about 4 feet high. When the Army moved in a new fence probably 8 feet high with razor wire was quickly installed throughout.
Practically all Army camps have high fences, admittedly that is a throw back to the IRA threat.

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Post by iainpeden » Sat Jul 05, 2025 7:09 am

Spotting outside Volkel in the early 80s a small group of us ended up in the guardroom as the MPs were fed up telling us not to sit on the fence. Not nice having an mg pointed at you even if the MP was smiling.

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Post by johnwayne » Sat Jul 05, 2025 9:00 am

To continue the nostalgic 'musings' , in the 50's at Burtonwood [USAF] us spotters could cross the main taxiway on our bikes at a signal control , and continue within the airfield on a road that accessed a base housing site until we came to a low wooden barrier alongside the crash station about 100yds (if that) from the main runway ! We were literally on the airfield . The MP's frequently visited us often letting us sit in their Jeeps . To have to stop at the taxiway barrier whilst a C124 , WB50 , C119 , C47 etc lumbered past was magical . Those really were the days . Ah the memories . At least Fairford is still 'doing it 'for me on my occasional visits . :)

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Post by POL » Sat Jul 05, 2025 9:33 am

AndrewBarclay wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:51 am
With reference to the incident at Brize Norton. Am l right in thinking it couldn’t have happened at a USAF.Base Because they have notices which state that unauthorised entry may be met by lethal force, plus most bases have armed guards on 24 hour duty.
It would be an interesting legal dilemma should a US serviceperson shoot an unarmed civilian dead, irrespective of where they are or what they are doing, that's for sure. I'd expect we'd have another Anne Sacoolas situation quick-sharp.

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Post by AndrewBarclay » Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:10 am

I know l started particular thread, in the early 1960s l lived in Freckleton about a mile from runway 08 - 26 there was a wire fence with two lines of wire about three feet high it went the entire length of the runway about 100 yards from the active part was a pile of chipping where we spotters use to wave to the Test Pilots one in particular Keith Hartley Tarnish 7 always acknowledged our presence and perform some spectacular vertical rotations. I was a member of AvroLancashire and Keith use to regale us with fantastic stories of his flying career. Our Chairman was a former Puma Pilot who also regaled us with naval stories involving Submarines. But lol digress

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Post by DJ17 » Sat Jul 05, 2025 12:26 pm

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Post by Nighthawke » Sat Jul 05, 2025 12:34 pm

"Red tape" at its best!

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Post by Jetbudgie » Thu Jul 10, 2025 8:57 pm

I liberated a 'Deadly Force' sign from the fence at Alconbury after the USAF moved out. It's still in the garage somewhere....💀

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Post by AndrewBarclay » Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:42 pm

Jetbudgie wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 8:57 pm
I liberated a 'Deadly Force' sign from the fence at Alconbury after the USAF moved out. It's still in the garage somewhere....💀
nothing better than an admittance of Guilt of guilt, watch out for the MPs allighting from there Humvee, l don’t think that the statute ever runs out in Federal Case’s

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Post by RunAndBreak » Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:40 am

I note there is a Humvee sat crowd watching at Lakenheath today...
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Post by Nighthawke » Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:48 am

Noted several times af Lakenheath and Mildenhall since the attack on Iran.

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Post by Gus0898uk » Fri Jul 11, 2025 8:43 am

I may be wrong but I don't think that the U S Navy use the Red line like the USAF do.

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