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Libya Update Thread - 48 hours for Libyan Freedom ??

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Re: 48 hours for Libyan Freedom ??

Post by Blackcatlad » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:55 pm

Typhoons only do air-to-air (at present) - not much use for single role a/c in theatre, they would have been better off staying at home practising for the forthcoming air display season (something they're good at!!).

;)

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Re: 48 hours for Libyan Freedom ??

Post by alchemist2001 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:17 pm

Was under the impression that the Typhoon was A/G capable even if it's not yet fully realised at this point. Also, surely as part of the no fly zone, the coalition will start performing combat air patrols to ensure Gadhaffi doesn't try to be funny? Maybe the Tiff was on a CAP?

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Re: 48 hours for Libyan Freedom ??

Post by T_J » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:18 pm

AdriaN 88 wrote:air to air? i thought that was a thing of the past :S why wud libya send up old heavy birds against a tiffy?
All options have to be covered. I haven't seen any Pentagon briefing footage of runways bombed. It appears that they are focusing on the hardened aircraft shelters and fuel stocks. Possibly there is an attempt to keep the runways undamaged in order to assist humanitarian missions in the future? I can't see any attempts by Libya to launch fixed wing, but there is the threat from attack helicopters. There is also the requirement to prevent anything flying into Libya without permission. For example attempts to fly in mercenaries or arms.

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Re: 48 hours for Libyan Freedom ??

Post by T_J » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:40 pm

Blackcatlad wrote:Typhoons only do air-to-air (at present) - not much use for single role a/c in theatre, they would have been better off staying at home practising for the forthcoming air display season (something they're good at!!).

;)
That is not the case. All the Typhoons sent out are FGR4s, thus they do have the option of conducting swing role missions. Yes, the number of Pilots cleared for air-ground is limited, but perhaps they have been selected for this current deployment?

http://www.xisquadron.co.uk/News/AFM_GF ... fSwing.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: 48 hours for Libyan Freedom ??

Post by benyboy » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:42 pm

Just caught a brief glimpse of the RAF Typhoons taxying on BBC News. Did one still have `tags` hanging from the weapons :S

Intersesting interview on BBC News 24 at the moment. Israel saying it needs more weapons from the US to keep a `quantative military edge` in the middle east.

Quote of the day for me, from the Israeli Defence Minister " The world is tough on soft dictators and soft on tough dictators" Sounds about right to me.

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Re: 48 hours for Libyan Freedom ??

Post by Blue Diamond » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:27 am

Talking of naff reporting, one news paper has printed that the Typhoons are from 311 Squadron RAF. Bet the veterans from the free Czech AF are surprised to learn that their old squadron has been reformed. :lol:
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Re: 48 hours for Libyan Freedom ??

Post by T_J » Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:53 am

benyboy wrote:Just caught a brief glimpse of the RAF Typhoons taxying on BBC News. Did one still have `tags` hanging from the weapons :S
I'm sure someone in the know will clarify, but I believe it is known as Last Chance, Arm/De Arm, EOR (end of the runway)? The tags/pins are removed at that point.

http://www.f-16.net/index.php?name=PNph ... c&p=162886" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: 48 hours for Libyan Freedom ??

Post by TS010 » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:31 am

I'm sure someone in the know will clarify, but I believe it is known as Last Chance, Arm/De Arm, EOR (end of the runway)? The tags/pins are removed at that point
Things may have changed a bit (going back to Lightnings now) but we did'nt have 'last chance checks' the way the Americans do. Just a guy on the end of the dispersal who would stop the jet and remove the MASB (Main Armament Safety Break), a key attached to a RBF tag, show it to the pilot then allow him on his way. When the aircraft returned it was'nt allowed to leave the taxiway until the key was refitted and the pilot got the thumbs up.
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Re: 48 hours for Libyan Freedom ??

Post by benyboy » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:13 am

Thank you for the replys.

The clip is here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12812568" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: 48 hours for Libyan Freedom ??

Post by Thunder » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:28 am

T_J wrote:
benyboy wrote:Just caught a brief glimpse of the RAF Typhoons taxying on BBC News. Did one still have `tags` hanging from the weapons :S
I'm sure someone in the know will clarify, but I believe it is known as Last Chance, Arm/De Arm, EOR (end of the runway)? The tags/pins are removed at that point.

http://www.f-16.net/index.php?name=PNph ... c&p=162886" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Not the normal way the RAF do it, but since they're operating from an Italian air base I would imagine they will have to follow local procedures/regulations.

In all fairness regards the 311 Sqn remark, it looks like a simple comma has been missed and should be "3, 11 Sqns"

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Re: 48 hours for Libyan Freedom ??

Post by Forestfan » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:33 am

Haven't seen the footage, but it's probably be the safety pin for the flare dispensers. They would be pulled at the exit from the dispeersal or near the end of the runway to avoid the possibility of an inadvertent firing on a busy apron.

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Re: 48 hours for Libyan Freedom ??

Post by Forestfan » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:41 am

Blackcatlad wrote:Typhoons only do air-to-air (at present) - not much use for single role a/c in theatre, they would have been better off staying at home practising for the forthcoming air display season (something they're good at!!).

;)
I guess in that case you'll be calling for the B-2s to stay at home as well then? :roll:
Although they're not quite as good at airshows.

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Breaking News

Post by hydealfred » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:57 am

SKY reports USAF jets crash lands in Libya. Pilot safe in the hands of rebels.
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Re: 48 hours for Libyan Freedom ??

Post by reaper493 » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:58 am

Sky news/telegraph repoting USAF Fighter crash landed at airfield in Libya, showed photo of an F-15E.
Pilot rescued by rebel forces, jet went down due to mechanical failure.

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Re: Breaking News

Post by f-4 » Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:05 am

One crew member? F-15E?

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Re: 48 hours for Libyan Freedom ??

Post by Mike » Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:08 am

Topics merged again.

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Re: Breaking News

Post by rmt_1982 » Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:14 am

Falcon wrote:
f-4 wrote:One crew member? F-15E?
I would have thought it was an error as the crew of the F-15E is 2. We should know more later as it becomes clearer what actually happened.
Haven't Lakenheath sent any of their 'C's across?

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Re: 48 hours for Libyan Freedom ??

Post by BOLLO » Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:20 am

Could be one of the Canadian CF18'S???
http://www.airfighters.com/photosearch.php?phgid=SHED" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; LOADES
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.s ... _entry=140+" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; at last

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Re: 48 hours for Libyan Freedom ??

Post by rmt_1982 » Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:25 am

BOLLO wrote:Could be one of the Canadian CF18'S???
I didn't think they'd achieved Operational readiness yet?

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Re: 48 hours for Libyan Freedom ??

Post by Thunder » Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:25 am

BOLLO wrote:Could be one of the Canadian CF18'S???
Wait for the facts. By all means reports coming out of the country are saying F15E



Edit: Comfirmed by the Pentagon as one of theirs
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