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BBC: Two RAF Aircraft Crash in Moray Firth

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Re: BBC: Two RAF Aircraft Crash in Moray Firth

Post by Aircraftpaulcornwall » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:06 pm

RIP - All those brave aircrew who keep us safe from every airborne threat.
Heartfelt thoughts go out to all of their families and also to R.A.F. Lossiemouth.
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Re: BBC: Two RAF Aircraft Crash in Moray Firth

Post by gixrgill » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:28 pm

well said Paul, my thoughts precisely. The sacrifice is high for those that keep us safe.
RIP for those that didnt return. Heart felt condolences to family and friends of the crew and all those stationed at Lossie.

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Re: BBC: Two RAF Aircraft Crash in Moray Firth

Post by Mark Owen » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:43 pm

RIP Blue Skies. :(

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Re: BBC: Two RAF Aircraft Crash in Moray Firth

Post by GummyBe4r » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:47 pm

R.I.P my condolences to there family and friends at this difficult time

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Re: BBC: Two RAF Aircraft Crash in Moray Firth

Post by awacsfan » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:27 am

My sincere condolences to the families and friends and squadron mates of the perished crews and a speedy and full recovery to the injured aviator.

RIP... blue skies...

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Re: BBC: Two RAF Aircraft Crash in Moray Firth

Post by Chris Procter » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:49 am

I want to offer my condolences to all the family's and all others concerned
a truly awful Tragedy

hopefully the aviator in Hospital will come out of the other side of this with the result we all would like to see
a very sad day for the RAF
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Re: BBC: Two RAF Aircraft Crash in Moray Firth

Post by Gary » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:35 am

The 3 aircrew have been named :'(
Following confirmation that one crew member has died and two remain missing, presumed dead, after an incident in the Moray Firth area involving two Tornado GR4 aircraft from RAF Lossiemouth on Tuesday, it is with great sadness that the Ministry of Defence must confirm the identities of the three personnel.

Defence Secretary Philip Hammond announced the details of the crew members today in the House of Commons.

Mr Hammond said:

"I am sure the House will wish to join me in paying tribute to the crew from XV (Reserve) Squadron, based at RAF Lossiemouth, who were involved in the Tornado GR4 aircraft incident on Tuesday: Flight Lieutenant Hywel Poole who was killed, and Squadron Leader Samuel Bailey and Flight Lieutenant Adam Sanders who are still missing and must be presumed dead.

"My thoughts - and, I am sure, those of the entire House - are with their loved ones at this difficult time, and with the fourth member of the squadron involved in the incident, who is currently in a serious but stable condition in hospital."

Squadron Leader Samuel Edward Bailey BEng (Hons)

Squadron Leader Samuel Edward Bailey was born in Nottingham on 23 June 1976. He completed an aeronautical engineering degree in 1998 at the University of Hertfordshire and commenced RAF Officer Training in February the following year.

Having successfully completed navigator training, he joined the Tornado Force in August 2001, serving on XIII Squadron at RAF Marham, where he deployed on operations over Iraq. He then joined XV (Reserve) Squadron as an instructor in 2004, serving on operations in Afghanistan.

Officer Commanding XV (Reserve) Squadron, Wing Commander Jonathon Moreton, said:

"After an enormously successful front line tour of duty on XIII Squadron, Sam joined the instructor cadre on XV (Reserve) Squadron in 2004. He excelled in the role and was quickly recognised as a talented mentor and trusted supervisor.

"His performance earned him promotion to Squadron Leader in 2010 and, after a tour of duty in Afghanistan, he returned to XV (Reserve) Squadron as a Flight Commander. He had quickly established himself as one of my most trusted instructors and flight commanders.

"He touched all the parts of the squadron; an immensely likeable character and professional aviator, he will be sorely missed. Sam was fully committed to all aspects of Service life; however, he valued his family time the most.

"The squadron's and my thoughts are with his wife Fiona and young daughter Erin at this immensely difficult time. This great loss will be felt intensely by all who knew him."

Flight Lieutenant Hywel Tomos Poole BEng (Hons)

Flight Lieutenant Hywel Tomos Poole was born on 22 April 1984 in Bangor and was educated locally. Whilst at school he was a member of the Welsh National and British National Sailing Squads and became a RYA Dinghy Instructor.

He then went on to read Naval Architecture at Southampton University where he was also a member of the University Air Squadron, graduating from RAF Officer Training on 16 October 2006. He successfully completed basic and advanced flying training and was selected for training on the Tornado GR4, arriving at RAF Lossiemouth in November 2011.

He had recently commenced the penultimate phase of the Conversion Course.

Officer Commanding XV (Reserve) Squadron, Wing Commander Jonathon Moreton, said:

"Flight Lieutenant Hywel Poole had an outgoing personality, was universally liked by his colleagues, and was an enthusiastic member of my squadron and the Royal Air Force.

"Displaying a natural talent for flying the Tornado, he quickly established himself on the squadron as a very capable and confident pilot, which, coupled with his keen sense of humour and engaging character, made him a very popular student on the squadron.

"Outside the squadron, he dedicated much of his personal time to others; he mentored other station personnel who aspired to gain a commission and would always volunteer to raise money for station charities, including Help for Heroes.

"An infectious personality, always cheerful, friendly and immensely likeable, Hywel will be greatly missed by all. My thoughts are with his family and friends at this incredibly difficult time."

Flight Lieutenant Adam Sanders

Flight Lieutenant Adam Sanders was born on 24 November 1984. He was educated at Scarisbrick Hall School where he was captain of the cross-country and cricket teams before undertaking higher education at King George V College, Southport.

In his spare time, before joining the RAF, he was a member of the Air Training Corps, achieving the rank of Cadet Flight Sergeant. After graduating from RAF Officer Training in September 2004 he excelled during flying training and he was selected to instruct other pilots to fly the Hawk.

At the end of his instructional tour in 2012, he moved to XV (Reserve) Squadron, RAF Lossiemouth, to undergo Tornado GR4 conversion training.

Officer Commanding XV (Reserve) Squadron, Wing Commander Jonathan Moreton, said:

"Flight Lieutenant Adam Sanders was a talented pilot who was recognised early on in his RAF career for his flying ability and professionalism; so much so that, upon completion of his Advanced Flying Training on the Hawk T1, he was specially selected to become an instructor on the aircraft.

"After arriving on XV (Reserve) Squadron, he continued to demonstrate very high standards and a real enthusiasm toward flying the Tornado GR4.

"I was impressed with his commitment to the squadron; he was a well-liked, hardworking and an enthusiastic individual. He had enormous potential as both a pilot and officer.

"Adam was looking forward to joining 617 Squadron after completion of the Operational Conversion Course; I am sure that the loss of this capable and much-admired pilot will be keenly felt by all on my squadron and the Royal Air Force community at large. Our thoughts are with his family and friends at this difficult time."
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Re: BBC: Two RAF Aircraft Crash in Moray Firth

Post by iain s » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:47 am

:'( :'( :'( :'(

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Post by lucasvlt » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:16 pm

RIP to all the families and comrades
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Re: BBC: Two RAF Aircraft Crash in Moray Firth

Post by Pybus II » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:19 pm

Remember next time. Sometimes with such things you grieve briefly, sympathise with the bereaved, and move on: just another statistic, no personal connection. In this case my daughter knew Adam Sanders. Though a few years older, he was in the same ATC squadron (which my son is now also a member of). Perspectives change, bringing things just that bit closer and makes you realise just how small this world is.

A reminder to us all, they are real people, real families, not just statistics.

RIP and condolences to all involved.

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Re: BBC: Two RAF Aircraft Crash in Moray Firth

Post by Snoop 95 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:55 pm

Both jets have been located on the sea bed according to Teletext. Recovery to start once a lifting vessel on scene.

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Re: Two Tornados located on sea bed

Post by Velvet Glove » Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:15 pm

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Post by Zulu63 » Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:33 am

Well said - totally agree

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Post by Blackcat1 » Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:42 am

Ditto!
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Re: BBC: Two RAF Aircraft Crash in Moray Firth

Post by Gary » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:08 am

Just going around on Sky News
The RAF has confirmed that the remains of Flight Lieutenant Adam Sanders have been recovered from the Moray Firth and formally identified.

The RAF made the following statement:

"The RAF can confirm that the remains of Flight Lieutenant Adam Sanders have been recovered from the area of the Tornado accident in the Moray Firth. Formal identification has been completed and the next of kin have been informed.

"Additional remains have also been recovered and are in the process of being formally identified. Our thoughts and prayers remain with the next of kin of the aircrew involved in the accident at this very difficult time.

"The next of kin of the aircrew involved in this tragic incident and all at RAF Lossiemouth are very grateful for the tremendous show of public support that has been evident since.

"We appeal to the media to continue to give families and friends privacy and the space to grieve over the coming days and weeks, as they begin to come to terms with their loss."

The Military Aviation Authority stated:

"The recovery of wreckage has now been completed and the Service Inquiry Panel, assisted by the Military Air Accident Investigation Branch, will continue to work quickly and thoroughly to investigate the circumstances of the accident."
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Re: BBC: Two RAF Aircraft Crash in Moray Firth

Post by Gary » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:26 pm

Another update on the MOD website
The RAF has confirmed that the remains of Squadron Leader Samuel Bailey have been recovered from the Moray Firth and formally identified.

The RAF has made the following statement:

"The RAF can confirm that the remains of Squadron Leader Sam Bailey have been formally identified and the next of kin informed. Our thoughts and prayers remain with them at this very difficult time.

"The offshore wreckage recovery operation involving the Far Sapphire, and the comprehensive examination of the incident site has been completed.

"However, the search for any further items that may have been carried away from the crash site by the tide will continue along the coastline with members of the local police, the Coastguard and the RAF Mountain Rescue Team. Every effort is being made to recover as much as possible.

"The next of kin of the aircrew involved in this tragic incident, and all at RAF Lossiemouth, are very grateful for the tremendous show of public support that has been evident.

"We appeal to the media to continue to give families and friends privacy and the space to grieve over the coming days and weeks, as they begin to come to terms with their loss."
Info from MOD website

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Re: BBC: Two RAF Aircraft Crash in Moray Firth

Post by Dazza37 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:11 pm

Glad to hear they have now been recovered, hopefully the families, friends and colleagues can take some small shred of comfort knowing thay have been found...

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