B-52H air thumped over Black Sea by Russian Air Force Su-27s

[T_J]

Media reporting that it was B-52H 61-0034 over the Black Sea. An extremely dangerous manoeuvre that caused airflow disruption to the B-52. Known as thumping.

Videos at following links.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWy7ojriXw4

https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/statu ... 1350140933

[paddyboy]

Beggars belief

Crazy flying

[Snoop 95]

USAFE statement on this:
https://www.dvidshub.net/news/377080/un ... -black-sea

[cj9ru]

That video looks very iffy indeed. That could easily have ended very badly. Perhaps some private conversations between countries needs to happen to avoid a serious accident. Unlikely to do much good perhaps, given the recent aggressive behaviour of Russia, but has to be worth a go.
I certainly can't see any of our pilots behaving like that around their aircraft and this should be made clear to Russia.
Worrying

Chris

[T_J]

That video looks very iffy indeed. That could easily have ended very badly. Perhaps some private conversations between countries needs to happen to avoid a serious accident. Unlikely to do much good perhaps, given the recent aggressive behaviour of Russia, but has to be worth a go.
I certainly can't see any of our pilots behaving like that around their aircraft and this should be made clear to Russia.
Worrying

Chris

Agreements are in place between the US and the Russian Federation. They go back to Soviet days in the 1970s but were also amended and re-established in the late 1990s.

1972

Agreement Between the Government of The United States of America and the Government of The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics on the Prevention of Incidents On and Over the High Seas


https://2009-2017.state.gov/t/isn/4791.htm

From 2008 highlighting the 1998 agreement.

https://fas.org/irp/doddir/navy/opnavinst/5711_96c.pdf

Sadly it is going to take a collision or an air emergency to reign this type of bravado in.

[BOLLO]

https://www-forbes-com.cdn.ampproject.o ... gsctxvbgb4

[phantomrob]

if they cant shoot at it what are they expected to do ?
ask nicely if they will go away .

[EGDR]

if they cant shoot at it what are they expected to do ?

Nothing. It's not their airspace. They have the right to monitor, as we do with their flights through/close to the UK FIR, but not intervene.

[Ghastly Whisper]

if they cant shoot at it what are they expected to do ?

Nothing. It's not their airspace. They have the right to monitor, as we do with their flights through/close to the UK FIR, but not intervene.

Well we and they can intervene if needed to do so. I do belive thats what live weapons are for.

[EGDR]

I'm not sure of your point there? Of course QRA aircraft carry live weapons, that doesn't mean they have the right to open fire on aircraft flying legally in international airspace.

[Vulcanone]

Not like this is a new thing really....

[Vulcan74]

The Russians clearly violated the engagement rules here, and they do what suits them as usual!!

[Supra]

The Russians clearly violated the engagement rules here, and they do what suits them as usual!!

I'm quite shocked at your assertions! Next thing, you'll be saying that anybody spouting alternative views about President Pukin's way of Government gets a free shot of Novochok?